Vaccine provocation

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  1. bisco

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    our daughter got married early december '19. our other daughter and i got really sick and it lingered for a long time. we've always wondered...
     
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    Makes sense -- since this was of course hallowed pre-covid times... there were a lot of E- /SE-Asian tourist traffic here on Maui over the holiday season, natch. HI in general's a huge holiday destination for East Asia in particular, so makes sense geography-wise... but remember also twin-engine jets that could fly direct LAX/TPE, LAX/NRT & HNL/PEK were established and profitable... so the spread was virtually guaranteed to go as wild as it did.

    I'd no idea what hit me -- hadn't been that sick in decades. This event actually convinced me (prior to covid, which wrote it in stone) to get flu vaxes.
     
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    Unlike covid vaccinations, flu vaccinations are still mandatory for military members and have been more or less since 1945.
    MUCH more since the 50's.
    Military personnel can get COVID-19 shots, but the mandatory requirement was rescinded in 2023, allowing for personal choice, though the Department of Defense encourages vaccination for readiness and health - meaning encouraged....not "ENCOURAGED."
    IYNYN.
     
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    That's super-interesting... we're roughly similar eras (you perhaps 10y my mil senior)... but didn't have to get a single flu shot whilst CONUS, not one (which is why for years I never got them, claiming they just made me sick. Fast forward 30y :p). They offered them at the dispensary but wasn't mandatory for Army of the time at least. Navy, no idea it wasn't a choice... but as a flu shot devotee now, was obvi the right call for sailors bunched up in metal hulls or giant sewer pipes 6 mos at a time :confused:

    Overseas... now that was a bit different. Since we were traipsing around on leave w/ EC or Eurail passes all over Europe, had to get regular shots for all the usual travel bugs (seem to remember rabies and yellow fever), freely interacting w/ civilians... including flu shots. That ended PCSing home tho :coffee:
     
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    Can't speak to the Army's policy but the USN is VERY humorless when it comes to vaccinations, and when I traded sneaks in for 782 gear I saw more than a few squids receive ADSEPS for not getting their flu shots.
    THANK GOD (!!) I retired before the whole COVID flap-a-doodle hit the fan.