Replacing spark plugs

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  1. avoice217

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    So I noticed today that my engine was starting to shake while I was accelerating. I came to the realization that no one even bothered to replace the spark plugs in the past. Just for reference, I just past 197k on the car. I just watched a video on how to replace the spark plugs and found it to be overall very simple. However, in terms of a torque wrench, I don't have one of those. I searched on Harbor Freight's website and it says that they sell Pittsburgh ones, but it didn't really show how it could go to 15 ft lbs.

    Can someone help me find a torque wrench where the tool clearly shows 15 on it by chance? I wonder if I might be overthinking that part of the process. Unfortunately I can't afford one of those electronic ones that beep.

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    It shouldn't be hard to find one. Pay attention to the torque range, lowest to highest, in the description of the tool. You want one where the low end of the range is something less than 15 foot pounds and the high end is something more.

    For the mechanical click-type ones, it's also better to use a lower-ranged one (where 15 foot pounds is not near the bottom of its range) instead of a higher-ranged one (the tool can be less accurate when set in the extreme lower part of its range).

    The simplest type, with a beam that points to numbers on a scale, is kind of foolproof, except that it's hard to use in positions where you can't be watching the needle and scale straight-on the whole time. That's really why the clicky or beepy kinds became more popular.

    But first it might be worth thinking about various reasons, besides plugs, why your 197k car could be shaking while accelerating. (What is the car, by the way? Your profile says 2009, but you've posted here in the Gen 3 forum, for 2010 through 2015.)
     
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    In that case I would like to apologize about the last sentence. I have updated to a 2013 Prius. However, I just simply forgot to update that information on my profile and that's simply my fault. Also when it comes to the 2013 Prius, I've heard about the EGR valve getting clogged, so thats been the main focus on my radar since I've owned it. Honestly the whole spark plugs thing really caught me off guard.
     
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    IMHO; you should get a friend to help you out on the spark plug change and EGR clean-out. It's a "blind-stick" going into an aluminum head - really easy to cross-thread for someone that doesn't do this kind of work and doesn't have a "feel" for it. The best rule of thumb is, hand twist the spark plug all the way down and torque it down the last few turns. If you force it down with tools, there's a good chance you'll cross-thread it.

    Just my two cents....
     
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    That's one among a bunch of things that can happen, though I'm not sure it's the first thing I'd think about with your symptoms. The valve can also stick open, which could give some roughness symptoms, but you'd be noticing those at idle.

    A common contributor to rough running at mid-loads, like when you're accelerating but not aggressively, would be clogging of the EGR passages in the intake manifold. That would come kind of early in my list to check.
     
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    Make sure you avoid knock-off spark plugs from places like Amazon or eBay.
     
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    So did you clean it?
    The spark plug torque spec is 15 ft/lb. While Toyota doesn't say, the lack of any mention of lube on the threads infers it's with clean/dry threads. The plug manufactuer (Denso) does caution to not use lube.

    Anyway, for plugs I'd recommend either a 3/8" or 1/4" drive micrometer style torque wrench. Decent made-in-China ones can be had for about $30~40 USD. With the 1/4" drive torque wrenches be careful: they're typically incremented in inch/pounds. With them, if the torque was 15 ft/lbs, it's equal to 180 in/lb (15x12).

    In the long run, a 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" torque wrench are all good to have: 1/4" for really low values, 3/8" is a good compromise wrench, calibrated in ft/lbs, and 1/2" for higher torque values, wheel lug nuts for example.

    You'll also need a 14mm or 9/16" spark plug socket, and at least a 6" extension. If your spark plug socket has an especially tenacious rubber insert (for gripping the plug), I'd recommend to wrap the juncture between the extension and socket with masking tape, to avoid possibly leaving the socket on the plug during install, which'll likely necessitate backing the plug out, starting again.

    Do this with a cold engine.

    Video #13 here is good to watch before diving in. Lot's of other very informative videos as well. Do note: he mentions to torque the plugs to 20 ft/lb, and slathers anti-seize on. Again, Toyota's Repair Manual says 15 ft/lb, presumably with clean, dry threads.

    The plug is Denso SC16HR11 (the "16" was "20", but Toyota revised).
     
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    Hey all, here's an update. So I just received the spark plugs in the mail. Ended up going with NGK (did some research and found that Toyota uses both Denso and NGK and NGK was slightly more affordable). However, tomorrow I'm gonna go to my local Harbor Freight to get myself a torque wrench. I'm fully aware that it's best to change the spark plugs on a cold engine and that's the plan. I watched someone do it on Youtube and that gave me the confidence to do it. The guy used an electronic torque wrench that beeps and I know I can't afford that.

    On a side note, I am planning on taking care of the EGR valve/cooler soon. I learned that ultrasonic cleaners are now more affordable than in the past, so I'm gonna invest in one of those to see how it works out. I'm honestly tired of spending $11 a pop on oxiclean and mean green just for that to have very little effect. Apparently an ultrasonic cleaner just needs water and it'll do a fairly good job. So come this Friday when I get paid, I'm gonna order myself one of those and give it a try.

    Also since its the holiday season, I'm gonna buy myself a 3M headlight cleaning kit and give that a go. Apparently headlights are far too expensive at $100.
     
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    Here is a good quality torque wrench, 3/8 drive, 5-50 lb/ft

    amz: https://www.amazon dot com/dp/B0DHGYVF1M?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_6&th=1
     
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    Do not get the cheapest torque wrench. There IS a difference.
    Oven cleaner, $1.25 at the dollar+ store.... Pressure washer....

     
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    I’d hold off on the ultrasonic cleaner, consider brake cleaner, rags and brushes for the bulk of the cleaning, and for cleaning the cooler only (it’s stainless steel) lye (NaOH) solution should be very effective. Don’t use it for anything else (it’s either overkill or will react with the metal). Do read up on safety protocols, it’s a strong caustic (very basic), will cause chemical burns if you get it in your skin).

    you’ll need to clean the intake manifold too: it’s the final leg of the EGR path to the engine.

    see top 2 links in my signature for more info (on a phone turn it landscape to see signatures)
     
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    If you’re replacing plugs for the first time since original … be ready for them to have been put in by a machine or a mechanic named “Gadzooki”. The first set I removed felt like they were welded in. I’m not saying that all will be that way, just to be prepared for it.

    Next … every plug I’ve ever replaced has had a compression gasket. In my opinion, which gets hammered all the time, this sorta negates the real need for a torque-wrench. I believe in spinning them in by hand until tight, then wrench them in for a quarter turn. I also believe in using anti-seize, whether Toyota recommends it or not.

    I just gave you my opinions. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t use a torque-wrench, I just think it’s overkill. I’m not saying that you have to use anti-seize, I do however recommend it though.
     
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    IMHO; you can kinda skip the anti-seize with aluminum heads, but I still do it - old habits. It also wasn't really needed on the iron heads either; IF you followed OEM guidelines and changed them every 30K miles. If you upgrade to platinum or iridium plugs, you'll need anti-seize, because of the longer service intervals.
     
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    Denso stance:

    Should I apply grease to the spark plug thread?

    If a thread lubricant such as grease is coated on the thread, tightening of the spark plug increases when applying the same torque; this can cause damage to the spark plug. Subsequently, vibrations may cause the plug to come loose. Because of this, DENSO recommends not using a thread lubricant.

    Only in a few exceptional cases (such as with some LPG-powered forklifts) may a small amount of grease be required. In such cases, the spark plug will be supplied pre-lubricated.


    From:

    Spark Plugs – Frequently Asked Questions | DENSO
     
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    FWIW; Anti-seize and thread lubricant are entirely different. Anti-seize prevents oxidation/rust formation; so the spark plug threads don't wield itself to the engine head. This happened on old iron block heads where the owner didn't do basic maintenance on the car and had a spark plug fail on them. Anti-seize would prevent that old spark plug from getting stuck, wielded to the head.
     
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    Toyota put's 'em in dry, as far as I know.
     
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    So do I.....but I keep the plugs in for 120k and this means that I've mostly only needed to change them once for all of my cars.
     
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    Hey all, so here's the latest update. So I installed the spark plugs and immediately noticed that the engine was starting to shake, so I turned it off. So I'm not sure if I tightened the spark plugs in correctly or if its possibly the egr valve. My only complaint about the click type torque wrench is that I don't feel like I'm getting enough proper feedback from the wrench when it comes to ensuring that the spark plugs are tightened enough.

    Now I've found an affordable digital torque wrench on eBay, but naturally that thing wont arrive til sometime possibly next week. I definitely don't have an issue with removing the egr valve at this point and getting some brake cleaner to start cleaning it. However, I'm wondering if there's other ideas as to what to look into?
     
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    i hope it's not the head gasket
     
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    Hey there, small update. So I found out that there was a hose that wasn't properly connected that goes to the engine air filter as soon as I tightened it properly, it started running fine. However, the car can only run properly on the ev battery, so tomorrow I'm gonna take the intake manifold out and give it a proper cleaning as well as the egr pipe. I'm trying to find my red ratchet tool that I purchased earlier this year so that I can remove the whole egr valve and cooler. I went by HF earlier to get myself the nylon pry tool set, so I'm gonna use that to help remove the intake manifold.

    Right now my biggest worry is how much coolant I'm going to lose from removing the exhaust because I'm going to clean that as well.