Featured EV rollout slows down globally

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  1. Gokhan

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    does that mean c02 is not the existential threat we were lead to believe just a few years ago?!?
    who knew!
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    ever since driving one of the very 1st plugins (chevy S10ev) in the 1990s - it was a no brainer plugins would be capable of being more efficient & cost effective. that should have been all that was necessary to move forward. no need to pepper a bunch of fear on top of that.
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    they are not more cost effective everywhere
     
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    That looks more foreign regulatory agencies acknowledging customers not adopting EVs as fast as regulators wanted, so adjusting targets to be less far ahead of market reality, not 'put[ting] the brakes on'.

    For the US, fallen Tesla sales would reflect customer dislike of Musk's antics this year, while Ford and GM's pullbacks could reflect the federal U-turn this year.
     
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    I was never a 'green' Prius owner either other than:
    • Saving greenback Yankee dollars
      • Cheaper to operate and lower lifetime costs
    I am too cheap to be "green" but by happy accident, fuel efficiency and home solar saves me a lot of money. For example:
    • 1991 manual transmission Camry ~26 MPG -> 2019 Tesla Model 3 Std Rng Plus 133 MPGe
      • Last Prius $18,300 trade-in reducing Tesla purchase to $24,000
    • 2017 TSLA stock, no dividends -> 2024 Solar roof, reduced electric by ~$1,500/year
      • 30% capital gains tax negated by 30% tax credit for solar roof
    The problem of "c02" has been known since the 1890s and has not changed. Venus is the best example of the worst case fate and was measured in the early 1960s. Ultimately, the Sun consumes our planet. In the meanwhile, our species deals with the effects of man-made global warming.

    At age 76, I'm interested but too cheap to care. My high efficiency, gas funace (plastic flue pipe) is keeping the winter cold at bay. I also have heat-pump water heater and dryer. Again, just to save my money, high efficiency saves my 'greenback yankee dollars.'

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    A Yankee who lives in Alabama?
     
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    It’s a Southern expression … you won’t understand.

    The Confederacy printed money using bitcoin principles. So they paid for goods with their currency like provisions in Gettysburg. But even in the Confederacy, Yankee Greenback dollars had real value.

    Naw, I’m a proud partisan Dixiecrat.

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    Oh, actually, I got what you said after I replied to you. Yes, damn Yankees! LOL
     
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    Just the ones that stayed.

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    yankees are like hemorrhoids. not too bad if they come down and go back up, but if they stay down, they're a PITA
     
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    Will definitely be waiting to buy an EV until things feel more established, especially with charging networks.
     
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    I'll definitely be waiting to buy any car because I bought a Toyota, and it just doesn't want to catastrophically fail.

    And that's a good thing, because I have no idea what kind of car I would buy if I lost this one. I'd consider a used Bolt, but then again, I'm not entirely sure I'd get an EV.
     
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    we love our ev, as a second car. long distance charging isn't there yet, unless you're willing to spend a little more time on the road.
    plus there's a huge learning curve about apps, payments, charging adapters, etc.
    and if you need a repair, good luck.
    don't tell the true beliervers that though, they find that kind of negative talk upsetting.
     
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    You think Evs are growing too slow & ininfrastructure? Just be glad you don't have that ridiculous hydrogen-mobile & its wonky infrastructure.
     
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    An early adopter since 2016, you can tell me and I won’t be upset. I’ve already paid my tuition in the school of hard knocks.

    In the spirit of PriusChat, I am willing to share my lessons learned. Even if not asked. <GRINS>.

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    We loved our Nissan Leaf too. I know all about the apps, payments, charging infrastructure memberships, adapters, etc.

    Reparability had me a little scared, and even more so when the price for a replacement battery kept going up. I suppose it would affect my decision if we went looking at a Bolt.

    But my main mistake was getting a nicer, newer Nissan Leaf as the second car. When compared to our 1985 VW Golf diesel with all original everything and 700,000 miles on the odometer, the wife does start wondering why we bought this nice, newish EV so we can go see her mom and siblings in the old Golf.

    The same today. I guess it depends on what dies first. If the second car (Nissan Pathfinder) were to die an unrepairable death, then we'd look at getting an EV. If the main car (Toyota Avalon) were to die an unrepairable death, then we'd either need an EV that can go 500 miles on a charge, or forget it and go with some sort of gas sucking sedan.
     
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