Featured Tesla full self-driving (FSD) now goes behind monthly paywall

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  1. Gokhan

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    Imagine if you sold someone a house you built and they own that house, but there was a part of the house that was locked and they could only use that part of the house by paying a monthy rent. That's the level of f*ckery that these monthly payments for car features has turned into.
     
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    Will let you know what happens. I bought Autopilot and FSD in 2019 and as long as they are not taken away or disabled, I am happy with what I’ve got.

    Tesla had been stupid to not let me transfer FSD to a newer Model 3 except on their short, quarterly sales schedule. So I keep my 2019 running as long as possible. But eventually it too will reach “end of life” and I still have a working 2017 BMW i3.

    So I’ll wait on any official Tesla communications or actions. I have no problem with a reasonable ‘maintenance’ service fee but not at $100 per month.

    Just don’t “take it back!” Stopping updates would not bother me as the current release meets my requirements.

    By blocking WiFi access while keeping Bluetooth, I should be able to block poison pill downloads.

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    Big whoop-dee-doo it's going monthly. It's a marketing scheme. They'll try it, & if it works, it'll continue. If not? They'll go back to plan A. It's just like they have done with free supercharging. On again - off again, on again off
     
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    It is a disguised price increase, as are nearly all the things moved from ownership to subscriptions.
    Has anything else gone back to Plan A? I gave up waiting for MS-Office go back, and switched to something else when the old one wouldn't load on to a new machine.
     
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    same things all msg's are looking at, monthly subscriptions, nothing new under the sun, just first world problems
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Rent seeking is not capitalism.

    Tesla had a subscription plan for a few years. It's dropping the flat fee that will be new.
    Seems Mercedes Level 4 system might be subscription only.
     
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    as is GM's supercruise, which can't work on residential streets etc the way autopilot does. Just saw a Silverado in front of Costco as a sales gimmick and it appears to be included for 3 years, at least on the "High Country" trim level that we have.
     
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    didn't bmw already reverse themselves on monthly fee for rear seat heaters?
     
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    ready, as in, on the dealer lots?
     
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    It's still word mumbo-jumbo. Just because something says it hardware is ready doesn't mean the software or the sensors or the vehicle is - much less a few million lab - & then millions of test mule miles.
     
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    We agree based on a false understanding of what is holding off adoption. There is actually an approach that would work:
    • Make current release available ONE time for ever, free. -- there is a learning curve that takes months, possibly years, to master. Make a "snapshot in time" available and let every driver discover whether or not it works "good enough" for them.
    • Buy a documented update - for a reasonable fee, let owners update their older FSD to a newer release. This requires an accurate listing of new features and corrected flaws of the earlier or current version. To work, Tesla must listen to requested features and reported flaws and then code what their customers want.
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