I have several Gen1 cats that I've hung on to, waiting for metal prices to go back up. I've kept them listed on FB at $1000 knowing that's a decent value for owners in CARB states that have to have OEM or pay more for aftermarket. I calculated that price by adding my cost to replace these on my running cars with a cheapo aftermarket to the price the recycler would pay me for the OEM. I've only sold 2 or 3 at that price over the last few years, and felt good for helping keep these cars on the road. But now, it looks like the price has gone back up - metals prices are above where they were when I was getting over $1000 for them from recyclers - but the local recycler hasn't raised its price paid as much as he should, They only estimate the value at $800, and I have to actually cut them off and bring them in to get an exact price. I know that's not enough because random FB buyers are offering me $1000ea for all of mine. I know those guys are just reselling them, but can't figure out where they resell. Drilling the internet is a pain. Lots of brokers but few refiners. Doubt anyone here knows any different, just griping. I'm getting the same BS from some gold jewelry I have. Of course, everyone wants pay less than meltdown, but usually a lot less. Same with a platinum ring. Finally figured out that I could get 90% of meltdown from NYC brokers by mail, but still haven't sold. Two weeks ago, when I tried researching, every guy I talked to told me that market was set to collapse and I better sell that day, lol. Everyone's the scammer these days.