Vaccine provocation

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  1. tochatihu

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    Any list of the most corrupt corpos on the planet ought to consider including petroleum extraction and refining. Exclusion raises questions.
     
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    It was also a lawfare threat to stop them from building high mileage EV.s Note the first EV/hybird prius only had a 25 mile battery range. It was an exaggerated penalty for what they actually did. It was right around the time they were also threatening to be the #1 auto manufacture

    The unintended acceleration was also just a ECU program problem. When the ECU saw a full accelerator and a full brake condition it would leave them both full and the higher power engine would win, like the LEO in the Lexus. Recall programming made it where the ECU would let off the gas when it saw both gas and brake to the floor. All cars are programmed like this now.
     
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    Toyota's first PHEV Prius was little more than adoption of what individuals had already done. Their second generation, the Prime, added the one-way clutch, the spray gear, which was a primary reason I bought a 2017 Prius Prime. Then I ran into the early version, Prime software.

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    The Exxon Valdez Alaska spill ended up at $507 Million in fines , It was as high as $12 Billion but they successfully appealed all the way to the Supreme Court

    The BP Gulf spill, On 14 November 2012, BP and the US Department of Justice reached a settlement. BP will pay $4.5 billion in fines. Don't know if this has been paid or appealed or what

    Regardless Big Pharma has been proven to be lifelong criminals uncaring about human life, only focused on the $$$$$. When you own the politicians and the regulatory agencies. When you obtain immunity from lawsuit, all bets are off.
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    I do remember it being an ECU program problem, but calling it 'just' an ECU program problem downplays its impressiveness a bit. As I recall, to correctly describe what the Barr Group found took quite a few slides, easier to follow with a bit of computer-science background.

    Bookout v. Toyota
    slides from Barr Group on the Camry firmware

    It's good even for me to go back and re-read that report from time to time. For one thing, it's a reminder of why some advice fuzzy1 gave is pertinent:

    It's not obvious why that would matter, but the Barr Group found that if, at the moment Task X happens to die, the brake pedal is already depressed even slightly, then until that status changes (that is, goes back to completely released, and then pressed again), it's as if the brake press hasn't been seen.

    It's a lot like those web sites I visit with javascript turned off, and I select an option from some dropdown menu and nothing happens, and I think "oh, right" and click javascript on, but the site still won't go where I told it until I deliberately set the same menu to some different option and then back to the one I want.

    (It is kind of funny, the lengths Toyota went to just to get particular facts redacted from all the trial transcripts, and then what wasn't redacted. They absolutely couldn't allow you to know how many milliseconds an ECM reset takes, but then a little further down the page you can see it's 11 feet at 60 mph. Hmm. :) The courtroom had to be cleared for anybody to mention how many tasks run on the Camry ECM, but it was ok to say there are 16 million combinations of which ones might be stopped. I notice the "final, redacted" Barr PDF now openly says 24 tasks; somebody must have decided what power of 2 is around 16 million wasn't as much of an impenetrable mystery as they'd hoped.)
     
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    "The BP Gulf spill, On 14 November 2012, BP and the US Department of Justice reached a settlement. BP will pay $4.5 billion in fines. Don't know if this has been paid or appealed or what"

    Easy to know:

    Deepwater Horizon oil spill - Environmental Impact, Cleanup, Recovery | Britannica
    Deepwater Horizon – BP Gulf of America Oil Spill | US EPA

    TL;DR about $20.8 billions

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    Petroleum refining harms, whether sued, payed, or treated as externalities are not easy to know. They occur every day not just as blowouts. Coal is a whole 'nother thing

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    Fossil energy without doubt has provided energy to advance the Human Enterprise. Along with that, they have gotten away with a lot of sh*t. Big Pharma in comparison looks like little league to me. Readers' mileage may vary.
     
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    looks like that's civil, not criminal

    over $1 Billion criminal fines is "little league" okay

    39,000 USA deaths, est. 20 million worldwide is "little league" okay

    You should move to Canada and enroll in the voluntary euthanasia. Oh wait, you already took the vaxxine so you are already in the program. LOL!

    I've seen health problems in areas close to refineries. Currently auto emissions equipment is so clean the exhaust in LA is cleaner than the ambient air. But with the vaxxines 80% of the population is potentially at risk

    It's not just VAERS, all the other countries tracking systems say the same thing, we know your big pharma paid peer reviewed studies will find there are ZERO fatalities.

    Note this info graph is dated when Vaers was 1/3 of today's number

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    I'll have to buy the book because Snopes is right there with your big pharma paid peer reviewed "studies". It's run by a Dem Lib husband and wife.
     
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    I'm sure with all the lies and criminality that big pharma has exhibited overall that they will somehow not carry this over into the vaxxine sector
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    It's also modern keys, it used to be a mechanical switch but now it's an electric button. Panic emergency situation. Can you reach up and turn the engine off while you are moving? How about the gear shifter? Can you shift into neutral while not looking?

    I had all my family members train what to do, it depends on the vehicle. And also tested whether their brake would defeat the throttle when both are floored
     
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    You don't think pharma tech to develop vaccines has advanced any, since 1989 (the latest vaccine in your list)? That's 31 yrs :LOL:

    All my exp knows is truth, is a few family members have tested positive from not getting vaxxed in 2021 or later. I followed then-CDC directives to the letter, and never tested positive once nor developed covid, when this island was swimming in antivaxxer cases w/ beds lining every hospital corridor.

    Continued testing neg (always testing twice) thru the present day using all available methods, from blood draw serum tests taking a week for results, to mail-in --> near-instant saliva tests... not testing positive ever during or after the official pandemic, despite working on the public the entire time (w/ common sense protocols like requiring vax cards, masking, hand-washing and strict sanitation protocols).

    None of this TikTok-bait conspiracy nonsense carries any weight with me... and trust, if the CDC or Pfizer or any entity involved w/ fighting the pando were actually making people take garbage pharm, you'd hear about from this codger. They just haven't :coffee:
     
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    If you follow Chap's link, you'll see a description of what I did in a real case in the car that preceded my first GenIII Prius. (Though less detailed than described in older threads.)

    For the GenIII Prius, brake foot does the same. For the other action, instead of the other foot hitting the clutch, I practiced shoving the gear shifter into Reverse, which was really the fastest way to Neutral during forward motion at speed. This can been done almost instantly by blind feel, with near instant ECU response. Pushing the shifter to Neutral involves a programmed delay of a second or so delay before the ECU responds. Reaching for the power button involves finding a much smaller target, followed by a programmed delay of several seconds, if you do it right. The runaway Lexus crash involved a loaner car where the driver didn't know to press and hold the button that long. Toyota later programmed newer production to recognize the rapid repeated presses he did apply.