P0301 DTC, 210k mi. Still has Orig. plugs: Replace all Coils too?

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  1. davekro

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    This is embarrassing. I have never changed the plugs in my wife's 2013 Prius Plug-In (purch. new 10/23). Her last trip to do errands, it jerked aggressively she said, one time when she was accelerating normally (straight). I scanned for codes. My Autel MK 808S shows 4 Faults, all P0301 Cyl. 1 Misfire detected (1 each as Pending, Current, Permanent, and History. I was aghast when I checked my service log, and saw that I had never changed the spark plugs (I see NOW, due at 120k!). So, of course I will be changing the plugs.

    Sounds like there is a decent chance that Cyl 1's coil may be bad. Chat GPT said after changing the plugs, swap Cyl. 1 & Cyl. 2's Coils, to see if the DTC moves to Cyl. 2. Good for troubleshooting the immediate failure, BUT.. Chat GPT mentioned that plugs with 200k+ miles, with worn wider gaps, "...causes Increased firing voltage demand on the coils. 120k–180k miles → common first failure. 200k+ miles → failure is not surprising at all. At 210,000 miles, original coils are officially on borrowed time. So yes — Cylinder 1’s coil being weak or failing is absolutely plausible.

    So should I just bite the bullet and replace all four coils, as they may all be on their last legs by the higher current demand they have been working harder than normal to supply to jump the wider gaps?

    Any particular Spark Plug brand(s) recommended, or brands to especially avoid?

    I see coils going for between $35 to $75, or even $125 each for Denso. On the other hand, I also see
    BDFHYK Ignition Coil Pack UF596 and Iridium Spark Plugs, set of 4 each for $47.69! #1 Best Seller, 4 stars, (4,300 reviews), 100+ bought in past month. That price seems WAY to cheap. Maybe those are shops buying, not DIY people putting them in their own cars??

    Any recommendations for quality Coils at reasonable prices? Are 4 plugs + 4 Coils kits worth even considering? I have only seen no-name combo kits.

    With the time involved to remove wipers, plastic and metal cowls, I want the replacement plugs and coil(s) if installed to last a long time. ;o)
     
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    383,000 plus miles on my original coils.....
    Have you just replaced the plugs? That would be the smart thing to do. Then see if you still get misfires.
    You can also move the coils to see if changes.
     
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    Even the dinky battery in the G3 PHEV can keep the engine off enough for a 200K car to have plugs that probably should be replaced but are not as worn as a wireless G3.

    Don't sweat it.
    Replace the plugs.
    Keep the coils, swapping #1 with #2 for troubleshooting.
    You may have larger problems than worn plugs or a sketch coil and so you're going to want to trade time for money in this case if you can DIY.

    Avoid Amazon's and Ebay's infamous CCP sourced "Non OEM genuine" plugs.
    (EVERYONE KNOWS NOEM underperforms and can cause no end of trouble!!!)

    This is the one example that defines the rule of exceptions for getting OEM parts from the stealer.
    Or is it the exception to the rule?

    CURSE YOU self-referential logical paradox!!! :ROFLMAO:
     
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    While spark plug would seem a likely suspect, gen 3's are prone to head gasket failure, odds getting better around 150k miles, and near-certainty over 200k. It usually starts on cylinder one (leaking coolant into cylinder), and throws code P0301.

    Has the EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation system ever been cleaned?

    Is engine coolant level stable in the reservoir?

    Any cold-start shakes?

    Obviously plugs are overdue, but that, or a coil, may not be source of the code.
     
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    Thanks for this. Today, I will remove the wipers and cowling and replace the plugs. I'll leave all that hardware off until it's driven and (fingers crossed), I am very lucky that solves the issue. o_O
     
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    Don't forget to check your coolant. ;)
     
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    • I do not understand what you are saying. Can you clarify? I assume you are referring to the 12V starting battery. I did replace the original OEM 45 AH 12V AGM battery last year. I made some small physical adaptations to replaced it with a 55 AH AGM Deep Cycle battery. If interested in the details of how I did the small mods and lug conversion parts for this 12V battery conversion, see this thread:
    ‘Fitting mobility 12volt AGM battery’. Page 30, posts # 581, 583, and 585'.

    • I have not been driving it when the severe shaking, intermittently, occurs. But my wife describes it as quite violent. That does not sound like a misfire. But if a small amount of coolant is leaking into Cyl. #1, maybe after the engine has warmed up and been shut off a few mins. (or longer), even during pauses from running when the HV battery takes over… That water in a cylinder would cause a much higher compression ratio in that cylinder making that piston not want to complete its compression stroke and make the engine ‘buck’. This worries me. [ I bought a new GMC work van in 1999. It was not driven that often, but in 2007 w/ 51k miles, it had hard starting issues. Then one day returning from work an hour from home, goes up a steep grade, it started bucking violently. I figured the engine had thrown a rod, but since it was still running, I kept going to the CHP weigh station at the top of the (Sunol) grade ¼ mile away. I parked it in the huge empty parking lot, with the trail of oil in its path. I then learned that GMC trucks of that era were known to have issues if coolant was not changed regularly. It wasn’t the mileage, but the 8 years, that made the known to be problematic coolant issue become catastrophic in this case. I had the 5.7L Vortec L31 replaced with the same long block crate engine for $8,700 (engine $5,700, labor $2,800, rodded radiator + oil cooler $125). ]

    • Thanks for the warning. I’ll get some name brand, Iridium’s if not the same Denso plugs and do the plug swap today. (A prayer to the engine Gods. ;o)
     
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    While the plugs are out, use a bore scope if you have one, if not, try a flashlight and look down each
    spark plug hole. If the head gasket is damaged, likely cylinder #1 and/or 2 piston will look cleaner
    then the other two because coolant is leaking into the cylinder.
     
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    Of course that was the first thing I checked, and added coolant...

    BUT, I had NOT put 2 and 2 together until you asked this obvious question. [​IMG] THANK YOU!
    Several days ago, this saga started with my wife's first report of the Check Engine light. The Engine Coolant was still showing in the plastic coolant reservoir, but way below the Min. level. I added 1/2 gal. (25% of 1.9 gal capac.) to bring it to full level.

    JEEZ, with your reminder that the system had lost a half gal. of coolant, my brain just put 'loosing coolant' in the same thought as 'possible head gasket coolant leak'! [​IMG] In the past 12 years since new, the coolant reservoir has shown 'Full', with never having added an ounce of coolant.... Until now. So, for some amount of time in the recent past, it has lost 2 quarts of its 7.6 quart coolant capacity! There is no coolant residue in or around engine bay and no puddles leaks on the ground. I changed the engine oil and filter 4 months ago (Mobil 1 0-W20). At that time it was dirty, but not foamy or milky at all. Currently, the oil is clean and clear. No foaminess or milkiness. So coolant is not leaking into the oil.

    I watched a ChrisFix YouTube “Do Head Gasket Sealers Actually Work (FULL 2yr TEST with Engine Teardown)” In it, he describes how to verify you have a head gasket leak into the combustion chamber using a Head Gasket Test Kit $38. Or Spill Proof Funnel $20.

    Not sure I need a confirmation that the coolant is going into Cyl. #1. Is there anywhere else it could go? But I will order the Funnel kit to confirm exhaust bubbles coming out through the coolant.

    I started watching some of this “COMPLETE 2010-2015 3rd gen Prius Head Gasket replacement "how-to" step by step Video. I think I could handle the job of replacing the head gasket. Though I could fork out $ ($5k to $7k+) to have a shop do the job, I’m not sure it would feel like a good investment. My wife loves this car and we’d love to keep it going. But paying for a shop would not feel great if the car would be worth only +/- $8,000 on the private sale market. So I guess I’d need to commit my time and bandwidth to doing the repair myself to make it feel like a worthwhile endeavor.

    ETC(SS), once your question brought ‘head gasket’ et al replacement onto the radar, I spent the day in research, NOT doing the Spark Plugs replacement and Coil Swap test. ;o) Ultimately, the violent jerking my wife describes, does not sound at all like the car simply loosing power intermittently. :eek:P So I am transitioning my mind to the bigger job. Part of me likes the idea of proving to myself that, just turning 72, hey, I still have some skills (left), assuming it works out successfully, LOL. ;)
     
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    I like that idea! It may just be yet further confirmation to see the top of a silver 'steam cleaned' piston in Cyl. #1, Ha, Ha.
    The borescope mention makes me think... Did I buy one of those a few years back??... Or just research them thinking it would he cool and useful to have one. I'll have to poke around in my messy work bench, garage, and MIND, to see if anything comes to light! :D;o)

    After today's thinking that once I start into this project, I'm pretty sure, I'm in for the Whole Enchilada (Head Gasket and all parts down under there like: Water Pump, Timing chain tensioner, Thermostat, maybe 4 new coils...). If I'm investing 3-5 days (slower brain these days, yah know ;o), what's a few hundred more dollars here and there in parts 'while I'm in there' compared to MY time investment and the many thousands I'd pay in shop labor -and- marked up pricing on parts too, if I had to go that route.
     
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    ... the past 12 years since new... You haven't REPLACE the coolant????? That is bad...
    Old coolant will start to eat the head gasket, or so it's believe to do that. It's easy and inexpensive
    to change it though.

    No need to waste you money on coils if they are functioning... Spark plugs, yes.
    No reason to replace the tensioner, coolant pump, maybe, you can just get the impeller, thermostat,
    another maybe. Certainly wouldn't hurt. Mine is original.

    It's always best to do a complete diagnoses of your issue before starting to replace parts that don't need to
    be replaced and are not part of the issue.

    For the Prius, you won't really see coolant in the oil, or exhaust in the coolant. Because normally the
    gasket fails between the #1 and 2 cylinders. By the time you see coolant in the oil, or exhaust in the coolant,
    the engine will barely be running, or have a piston through the block.


     
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    That tests for exhaust gas in coolant, which is not the usual 3rd gen Prius HG failure mode, at least not in the early stages. Borescope inspection of cylinders is more conclusive.

    again: any EGR cleaning done? Think I know the answer, but just for the record.

    top 2 links in my signature relate to EGR cleaning, last link is full engine section from repair manual. (On a phone turn it landscape to see signatures)

    also: watch relevant @NutzAboutBolts here.
     
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    Putting some repair $$$ into a Pip in the SoCal probably isn't a bad idea in spite of the fact that the car isn't really worth 8K anymore now that it's suffering from the Prius Death Rattle.
    Besides....8K for a head gasket is high even by SoCal standards.
    It will be closer to 5k from some place like Gasket master or another Indy.
    Add in about a thou of other incidentals and you're looking at less than a year to recoup the expense versus the cost of the average used car payment of something like $600 a month.
    I do not think it's unreasonable to expect that you will get another year of service from the PIP - even though it's far enough along on the back nine for you to smell the bar food cooking in the clubhouse.

    Best reason of all to repair it.....your wife loves the car.

    Good Luck!