How common is Gen 2 Head Gasket Failure after 300,000 miles?

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    2009 with 318,500. The previous time I checked the dipstick, maybe 200 miles ago, oil still looked new yellow from the most recent oil change.
    I made at least 4 dozen or more 1.5 mile trips in cold weather (almost all between below freezing to well below freezing). Not even one longer trip to cook off any condensation (Yes, I know that's not good).
    The most recent time I drove home the 1.5 miles (45mph max) the touchscreen didn't power on, but there was no red triangle or service engine light in the cluster.
    Next time I started the car I got the red triangle in gauge cluster and an oil can light at top left corner of the touch screen.
    Oil is no longer yellow but looks milky and oil level has increased from little over 1/2 way between the marks closer to the full mark, so more than a trivial amount.
    Next day I started it couple of times just for a few seconds and no warning lights.
    My scanner (Xtool D7S) reads no engine codes at all.
    I assume that low oil pressure should cause a code? How long does low oil pressure switch reading need to exist before a code is logged?
    There is NO WAY that condensation over maybe 100-150 miles of 1.5 mile trips in well below freezing weather could noticeably add to the engine oil level, right?


    (I have owned the car for the last 50k miles. Aside from 3-4k oil and filter changes, 1 CVT fluid change and 2 air filters, injector cleaning spaying brake fluid and 5 spark plugs, I have stupidly neglected rest of the engine, including EGR and the cooling system, other than checking the coolant resistance to freezing.)
     
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    if a head gasket leak on a Gen 2 is from coolant to oil, will a chemical head gasket leak tester like LISLE 75500 show anything?
     
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    There is no EGR, you may continue to neglect it. Assuming this is actually a 2009 and not a 2010...

    Would a leak tester always work? I would imagine not. There must be some case for some car (maybe not this one) where a gasket breaks between an oil passage and a coolant passage, but not into the cylinder itself. If that happened, there wouldn't be exhaust gas in the coolant.

    The OP describes what looks like coolant in the oil. Does it also look like there is oil in the coolant? We suspect that those two are sharing space somewhere, so it is pretty likely that both would be contaminated.

    Buy a dye detection kit (dye, UV flashlight, UV protecting glasses). Find some cloth that does not fluoresce* and wipe a little oil on it from the dip stick. It should not fluoresce. Add the dye to the coolant and run the motor briefly. Wipe the oil onto another part of the cloth and check to see if it now glows. If so, you have your answer.

    * many detergents include chemicals (whiteners) that fluoresce under UV. Blue shop towels usually don't fluoresce, regular paper towels might. Newspaper probably doesn't.
     
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    Are ya missing coolant...? Running dead cold for a few trips too need to get er hot
     
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    After more than a decade on here near every day I can assure that Gen2 engine failure has never shown up as headgasket failure and I challenge anyone to find a link proving otherwise. Gen3 Prius on the other hand is endless headgasket failure. Seems like with Gen2 its piston or rings or valves or hole blowing out of the lower block from rod failure up near 400K miles... But because of Toyota's massive incompetence with Gen3 engine design, headgaskets are now wrongly suspect in all generations of Prius.
     
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    The typical high mile gen2 engine problem is excessive oil burning which can lead to sudden failure. Your engine is very high mile. Gen2 engines do fail and there are plenty of people who replaced their engines or junked the car.

    You need to change the oil and coolant asap and hope for the best.
     
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    I replaced the head gasket on my 426k miles 2009 Prius. I think the head gasket issue was caused by the owner frequently overheating the car and head gasket failure is not a common issue on gen2. She bought it from a previous owner who instead of fixing the 3-way valve, they rigged the cooling system by putting a bypass on the hoses.. it worked but leaked coolant slowly and overtime it loses coolant.

    One way to detect it is too fill the expansion tank with coolant up to the required level, drive it until it gets warm (or operating temp) then let it sit overnight. The next day open the radiator cap, if it spew out coolant then you got a leak. Combustion gases are trapped which indicates a leak.

    You can also use a coolant pressure tester, in my case I noticed a leak in the radiator bleeder but unknowingly introduced some coolant to leak into the cylinder head, this will cause misfires at startup and then back to no misfires throughout the day. This will introduce coolant in oil.

    I also used the dye which will turn blue into yellow-ish (or green-ish) color, in my case it doesn't indicate a major change in color but it did change the dark blue into something lighter (I brushed off the test as non-conclusive for head gasket failure initially)

     
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    I don't notice any signs of oil in the coolant, but I really should have gotten around the changing the coolant during my ownership because it has never been the color of fresh clean coolant.
    Good idea with the dye. without adding anything to either fluid the coolant looks like "pink milk" or Peptobismo. especially under the radiator cap, but elsewhere also, for example on the water pump and around that area there are dried splahes of the same pink milk color.
    The engine oil appears as "white milk" on the dipstick and "light blue" on a towel under the UV light.
    I assume that new Toyota coolant does not come with dye (but I have not yet tested how it looks under the UV light I have), but my guess at this point is that at some point dye was added to the coolant in the car.

    (I meant PCV instead of "EGR". And it turns out that i was wrong, I did get one from rockauto,)
     
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    Unfortunately I cannot say with 100% certainty if I'm missing coolant as of late, but I would say that it's at least a possibility.
    Because the oil light came on, I don't plan to drive it until I at least get an actual oil pressure gauge on it, and probably also new fresh oil, even though the oil in there has only 325 miles on it. Normally my oil is yellow to the naked eye at 325 miles, not milkish looking.
     
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    Yep, someone I know has a Gen 3 with head gasket failure. His son was using it and it got to the point of empty coolant and ugly noises. I had heard of the gen 3 head gasket issues and told him to come here and research. I don't know if he did.
    He had a mobile mechanic replace the head gasket (and timing chain set, head bolts, water pump) and they were able to go for a test drive but I have no idea how long a test drive and if on the engine or battery only until the car quit in the middle of the road with hybrid battery error. I don't know if the hybrid battery was getting charged.
    A hybrid battery guy came and replaced his hybrid battery. The guy said that he personally would have much rather put in a low mileage engine.
    with the replacement hybrid battery the car still refuses to start and sits after a head gasket, 12V and hybrid battery replacement. I don't know if he is doing any research. He doesn't wrench on cars.
     
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    Mine does use oil but I keep on top of it so it has never been below the low mark during my ownership, so the oil light did not come on because the oil pump was sucking air. (and it did not come on the next 2 times I started the car).
     
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    I need to put an oil pressure gauge on it before driving just to make sure that I don't spin bearings and make the issue even worse. (Although a replacement engine rather than a rebuild would probably be the route I would go, so it might not matter, but I still want to read oil pressure before driving to reduce the changes of getting stranded during the test drive.)
     
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    The coolant should only ever look like pink coolant. Anything "milky" indicates contamination, especially under the radiator cap, which as you note, is like that. The water pump should be clean. If there is anything pink on the water pump that means it is leaking (or, maybe, just maybe, somebody dripped on it when working with coolant.) Normally when coolant leaks it dries to pink crystals which aren't milky looking, at least to my eye. In your case it probably continued to leak after the coolant became contaminated.

    So, my hypothesis is that first your water pump began leaking, the coolant level got too low and you didn't notice, the motor overheated, at least in some areas, some gasket, probably the head gasket, began leaking letting the oil and coolant mix.

    Not sure how to proceed, other than not run the motor for very long as it will make things worse. Car has 318K, does it make sense to just change the head gasket on a motor that old? There could be other problems, bearings, timing chain wear, and so forth. The head might be warped, if things were really really toasty, the block too. "New" motor? Well, that can be a big can of worms, as the replacement might be screwy too. Doesn't sound like the OP has any experience doing this kind of work. Paying somebody else to do this would be what, $3K $4K minimum, and that's if all it needs is a head gasket, a new water pump, and new coolant and oil.
     
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    Just to clarify, the coolant looks like what I described under UV, not to the naked eye. To the naked eye it just looks like Toyota coolant that could use a coolant change, not milky. Tonight I'll look at new fresh toyota spec coolant and the hybrid system coolant in the car to see how they compare to the engine coolant under the lamp.
    No wetness (or crystals) on the water pump, just dried out "splashes/spots". I have not looked under the car.
    There is coolant directly under the (metal) radiator cap and in the reservoir, so the coolant level did not "get low" during my ownership (about 50k miles).
    when replacing the head gasket the head needs to be checked for warpage of course.
    If the oil pressure checks out, I might still opt for head gasket only because I might not keep the car very long.
    I have never been inside a Prius engine. Only small block and big block Chevy. Automatic transmissions are the only thing I don't work on. I watched a youtube video and the head gasket replacement didn't look too bad, just will take some time.
     
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    What does "could use a coolant change" look like? When I changed the ICE coolant loop on my car the old and new fluids were exactly the same color.

    Did the dye show up in the oil?
     
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    The fact that the water pump has those pink splashes is actually somewhat encouraging because this concern is considerably less than 325 miles old because that is when I last changed the oil and I looked at the oil sometime after that and it still looked like new oil and the dried spot on the water pump are almost certainly much older than 325 miles.

    However, a head gasket failing from coolant passage to oil return passage only should be much less likely given the much lower pressure than combustion pressure.

    The noticeable change in oil appearance and an increase in oil level, of course, is not encouraging at all.
     
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    Depends of course on how soon you change. It just looks like coolant that's no longer brand new.

    I have not added any dye to the coolant, but there might be dye in it. Or contamination.

    I think my next step is to add the oil pressure gauge that EVERY car should come with form the factory and go from there.
    I'm still puzzled why the oil light came on but left no code and no check engine light, unless they put in some code requiring it to read low for x number of seconds before tripping a code to filter out false readings and I shut it off too soon.
     
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    Just a thought... Because of the water pump arrangement, a leaking RTV seal (at the wrong spot) on the timing cover could provide a coolant to oil pan path... Is this a known failure mode on Gen 2?
    Especially if someone had the timing cover off on this car and didn't apply RTV properly, this could be a possibility.
     
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    Not good

    Yes that is possible but it is more likely at the head.

    Water or coolant in the oil can cause foaming which is primarily air. If that foam gets into the oil pump you can get a momentary low oil pressure light.

    Its almost irrelevant how it got in there. It will damage crank bearings, cylinder walls, cams; just about any rotating part.

    You need to change the oil and coolant asap and hope for the best.
     
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    Just to clarify, the oil looks like "white milk" on the dipstick under the UV light and light blue on a paper under the UV light.
    And the coolant looks light pink under the UV light, both under the radiator cap and on paper.
    (And there is no dye added yet. Dye could have already been in the coolant, I don't know.)

    Yep, the potential for damage is why I'm not doing anything that involves driving/warming up the engine at this point.

    If all I do is change the oil and coolant, I think that I'll be exactly where I am now very soon, as long as the many many 1.5 mile trips in very cold didn't cause so much condensastion to collect that it changes the dipstick level, which I don't think it could.
    (Driving only many 1.5 mile (per google maps) trips with full cool-down after every 1.5 miles is something I have never done before).
     
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