Vaccine provocation

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  1. PriusTech

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    Did the Covid shots pass human trials like a normal vaxxine is required to do or were they released under EUA? Is the company that makes the vaxxine allowed to conduct it's own clinical trial or is it independent? LOL

    How come there's no pics or vids of the multiple emergency bed arenas being full of patients? there's plenty of them empty.

    Is Dr Peter McCullouge, one of the most published Dr's in cardiology worldwide a TikTok conspiracy nonsenser?

    Is Dr Robert Malone, the primary inventor of mRNA a TikTok conspiracy nonsenser?

    Is Dr. Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test, which the "pandemic" was based upon a TikTok conspiracy nonsenser?

    How about nobel prize winning virologist Luc Montaine? Or former Pfizer vice president Michael Yeadon?

    Here's some pics of the huge arenas with empty beds, please post any pics of them with full beds or hospitals with full beds lining every corridor. LOL!
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    ‘Two weeks to stop the spread’ would have worked if everyone had isolated, as they said.
    Unfortunately, that didn’t (and probably couldn’t) happen
     
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    “The air is fine around Ground Zero.”
    - Christine Todd Whitman

    Someday the government will actually benefit the people instead of themselves.
     
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    And masks are effective
     
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    And the more people that get the shot, the less chance of spreading it. Same as flu
     
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    NYT is behind a paywall for me.
     
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    for anyone not signed up, I think
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    If the product is free...YOU are the product.
     
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    you've said that before, but I have no idea what it means
     
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    ah, thanks. if you pay for the product, you may still be the product
     
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    Concur.

    See:
    “There are only two industries that call their customers “users”: illegal drugs and software.”
     
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    or also “We’ve created a world in which online connection has become primary. Especially for younger generations. And yet, in that world, anytime two people connect, the only way it’s financed is through a sneaky third person who’s paying to manipulate those two people.”

    More of a mouthful than "you're the product" though, so probably won't catch on as much.
     
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    Everything is a trade off
     
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    For those seeking justification for their vaccine-phobia: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2514824

    Vaccine-induced immune thrombocytopenia and thrombosis (VITT) is a rare prothrombotic complication that occurs after adenoviral vector–based vaccination against coronavirus disease 2019; in rare cases, it can also occur after natural adenovirus infection. VITT is mediated by platelet-activating antibodies against the highly cationic protein platelet factor 4 (PF4). The underlying inciting antigen trigger and immunopathogenesis remain unknown.

    Sometime a small number of use get the unfortunate genes.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I think that’s always been true of vaccines
     
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    (Human) immune systems are always looking for trouble. They rally to defense when a foreign antigen (a should-not-be-here molecule) arrives. Pathogenic infections heralded by antigens always race against immune systems: Will an infection subvert human host to produce and emit more copies of pathogens, or will it be eliminated by immune system?

    Notice that death of human hosts does not benefit pathogens in the sense of using human 'factories' to deliver more copies of pathogens to local (to subvert more factories). Pathogens have no skill at predicting future, and some of them fail badly as they wander by mutation.

    ((Leave unsaid the complication of human immune systems over-reacting with bad consequences))

    Vaccinations prepare immune systems for potential pathogens, without our factories getting subverted. All the ways that vaccinations do this seem elegant expressions of human intelligence. Pathogens are much more numerous, but humans uniquely have brains and infrastructure.

    Vaccines approved and manufactured for wide use have efficacy from below 50% to 95%. Efficacy can be defined over a range from nobody gets ill regardless of their negligence in self-exposure to pathogens, to vaccines reduce the number of seriously ill that need serious medical interventions to avoid dying or suffering lifelong harm. Sorting that out in PriusChat would require deep dives into medical literature. It might reveal that some important studies have not yet been done. Anyway, it won't happen here.

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    Innumerable pathogens are 'out there', wandering by mutations. Human civilization has clustered large dense populations close to where 'pathogen vectors' reside. We are essentially daring them to subvert us further as pathogen manufacturers. Against that ... what shall we do? Prepare human immune systems better by vaccinations to win? Or shall we just hope for the best?