America and other things

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    Is America a thing?
     
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    gulf of America, or golf of America?
     
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    If there were any significant number of non-citizens voting, then those pushing these new ID laws should already be naming plenty of examples. In my state, and I believe many others, basic voter registration lists (without the more sensitive information the Administration is demanding) are already public information, by precinct and 'almost'-address. As are lists of who actually voted in each election. Any interested group can already comb those lists for improper voters.

    But so far, what I have been hearing is overwhelmingly about lists of potential non-citizen registered being very heavily loaded with "false positives" due to incorrect or outdated information. E.g. name confusions and immigrants who have become naturalized citizens but various databases still show outdated records from before they were naturalized. And when actual non-citizens are identified as registered to vote, the great majority of them have never actually voted.

    It appears that if new voter ID requirements are imposed for this year's elections on the very short notice being demanded, the result will be that far more legitimate citizens being disenfranchised from voting, than actual non-citizen votes prevented. That would be a travesty. I believe that any new requirements must do the opposite: For each illegal non-citizen vote prevented, it must result in at most -- and preferably less than -- one legal citizen vote lost.