Battery has range, but doesnt work properly.

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  1. Shimano Teryaki

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    Hello,
    I own a 2010 Gen 3. I bought it last year, but i have experience with other Toyota hybrids, both newer and older and have never seen something like this, and i think neither did my local toyota dealership.

    When i bought the car in october everything worked fine, just as intended. Got the consumption around 4 - 5 l/100km. At some point however on a random tuesday it started going crazy, it wasnt a gradual change, it just happened.

    Getting to the problem since it started whenever i drive the car, it goes into this never ending cycle. Lets say that i start the car and the battery is at one bar. ICE will be charging the battery for about 5 - 10 minutes and it will be one bar for the entire time. At some point the ICE stops and the battery fills up to 100% in a matter of 30 seconds. Then if im in a traffic jam, ICE will start going crazy fast, WITHOUT burning fuel (at least the fuel consumption says 0 when im driving without gas pedal and ICE is still revving like its going to explode, i suppose to get rid of excess energy.) however if this overcharge of traction battery happens on some country road when i can just drive at 70km/h then i will get like 5km (i checked a few times, its this much) of pure battery range. No matter which of this two cases happens the diagram says 100% the whole time and then at some point it goes to one bar again in a matter of 30 seconds.

    So basically the battery has the range, but it looks like the computer doesnt know the real charge value.

    This started to happen before it got colder for the winter, im stating it because toyota dealership told me multiple times everything is fine with the car, its just the temperature.

    Also these 30 second percentage changes happen no matter what. Even if im driving only using the battery uphill, it will still charge from 0% to 100%

    No lights on the dash, no warnings, no errors. Consumption is now at around 7l/100km and its like that since before it got cold

    pls help
     
    #1 Shimano Teryaki, Mar 3, 2026 at 1:38 PM
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    That’s a top indicator of a bad battery / energy storage capacity unfortunately.

    Check battery cell resistance with OBD.
     
    #2 Cornvalue, Mar 4, 2026 at 2:32 PM
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    Get a free 12 volt load test at most auto parts stores
     
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    Our family tip: if you cannot get battery to atleast green or almost top charge, it’s lame.

    If you try R and back up a hill - if the battery UI will indicate empty / one bar after 10 meters it’s bad.

    Reverse only use the HV battery.
     
    #4 Cornvalue, Mar 4, 2026 at 2:35 PM
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    How would 12V tester solve anything?

    Just use car scanner pro iOS and a vgate BT4 to check HV battery resistances and Voltage.
     
    #5 Cornvalue, Mar 4, 2026 at 2:37 PM
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    If you’re getting 5km range without the engine coming on, the battery is fine
     
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    But 12V sucks?
     
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    Capacities on multiple modules has diminished substantially such that they can go from no charge to fully charged very quickly. Dr. Prius should be able to get you a glimpse into this problem.

    You will either have to replace the battery or refurbish it. There are a ton of videos on yt that show how to do this.
     
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    Oh my the focus on Dr Prius is just so tired. Use a capable app that can read any PID.

    This app only reads basic OBD values for voltage and resistance. Wow.
     
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    How many km on the car?

    Do you have any history about the car you bought? Has any work been done on the hybrid battery before or after you bought the car?

    My guess is a problem with the hybrid battery.
     
    #10 Brian1954, Mar 4, 2026 at 3:25 PM
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    The thing is, before it happens ICE charges the battery for like 5 - 10 minutes. Only then the battery will go 10% to 100% in 30 seconds. Is it possible that somehow the system doesnt know how much charge ther is? Because both charge going up and down quickly happens after a long time of charging/discharging the battery. Is seems that the battery is fine, just the system cannot comunicate with it properly is it possible?

    I have papers saying that 220km is a legit mileage. Previous owner showed me photos of the battery being replaced a year ago, also showed me his text messages with the actual garage that done this, he said he lost the papers. It looked legit but well... He said the battery already had like 30k on it and he put another 10k so in theory it should have 40k by now

    Toyota dealership tested the battery and i got a paper that everything is fine with it. Are those dealership tests legit?
     
    #11 Shimano Teryaki, Mar 4, 2026 at 3:31 PM
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    The Dr Prius app is good for looking at data for the hybrid battery. Search for the website for the app and do some reading about it.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
    #12 Brian1954, Mar 4, 2026 at 8:32 PM
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    no way to know without testing, but a weak 12v can make the eco's do funny things. it's always a good first step, low hanging fruit
     
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    A weak 12v battery can not make the ECU's do funny things as long as the car is in READY, and the DC/DC converter is working properly to supply voltage to the 12v system of the car.
     
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    The Dr Prius app does a lot more than just providing the values for voltage and resistance. Maybe you should learn the benefits of using the app. It provides the same information about the hybrid battery as Techstream does.
     
    #15 Brian1954, Mar 4, 2026 at 9:49 PM
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    I would be the first person to criticize Dr. Prius for it's many failings. But even I can tell you that it's a useful app for preliminary diagnosis. The best thing to do is to open up the battery and test individual modules with a multimeter, then under load, and then running charging/discharging cycles using a capable instrument (CQ3 is one). The hybrid battery unit is as good as its weakest module.
     
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    Show us their report.
     
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    it doesnt say anything technical, they reassured me several times its allright and they gave me a paper basically saying "test positive". Its an authorized dealership by the way. They rebuilt my celica a year ago but my opinion on that garage is declining quickly recently

    Im planning to go to the garage that supposedly replaced this battery last year. i will post an update then if i know something new.
     
    #18 Shimano Teryaki, Mar 5, 2026 at 6:25 PM
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    Which basically means they didn't check squat. All they did was scan the ECM for any codes. Since your battery hasn't set an error code yet, they will not do any further checks. That does not mean that everything is fine and dandy with your battery. A specific set of things need to happen for P0A80 to be set ("check hybrid system"). Your battery is still operating within the tolerances, but that does not mean that it is not on its way out.
     
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