Capacitor issues, other than the MFD?

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    pasadena_commut Senior Member

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    It is common for the MFD to fail because an electrolytic capacitor used by Toyota wasn't quite the right capacity and over time it degrades to the point where it cannot do its job. That was a design failure, even though it took a few years to show up, it wasn't really the typical sort of capacitor age failure.

    These cars are getting up there in age, mine will be 20 next year, and at that age it is fairly common for this type of capacitor to fail. They swell, leak, or just get so far out of spec that they cannot do their job anymore. This can cause big problems in a car if it happens in the ECM. However, it seems not to be common in the 2nd Gen Prius, at least yet, as I have no recollection of any posts here describing an ECM failure from capacitors aging out. I have never opened a Prius ECM. Did Toyota just use really high quality electrolytic capacitors (in which case they will fail eventually, it will just take longer) or did they employ solid state capacitors, which last much much longer than the electrolytic ones?
     
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    I'd have to say the only gen 2 capacitor-related issues I've read about here have been in the Combination Meter. I just haven't heard of any others. To the point of the thread title, I haven't heard of any in the MFD, either.
     
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    Very thin layer of protection on top of dash heat gets crazy under that thin layer of black abs or pvc and it's black too . Fire hot
     
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    The MFD is definitely going to be hotter, but the ECM is tucked up under the dash too. However, it is a little lower and is in a metal box which is bolted to other metal which might keep it cool by diverting heat down into the frame of the car

    I looked for a picture of a 2nd generation Prius ECM board on Google and didn't find a single one. The only failures I have seen referenced were of the "external short to ground kills ECM" variety.
     
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    At times yes but I noticed when my car is parked the dash eyebrow display is taking a beating the forward edge of mfd is shaded . The plastic top over display is upside down . So the back side of the business end of the display is getting beat by heat . But it's all taking it pretty good.
     
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    Does this generation use a capacitor sub battery like the Gen5, to keep safety stuff alive if the 12v battery fails?
    There have been some problems with the Gen5's. Expensive.
     
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    Gen 2 does have a capacitor module, just to supply backup power to the brake controls. The gen 5 one does more.
     
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    Still, if Gen2's don't have much of a problem, maybe it was just a bad batch of caps for Gen5, hopefully.