Vaccine provocation

Somehow I knew antivaxxers have to use lies, whatever they come up with the opposite is true, glad it’s settled. Turns out the covid vaccines PROTECT THE HEART.
Of course always ask your doctor and if you have heart problems you should be seeing a cardiologist, which brings up PEOPLE ARE FORGOING HEALTH INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD IT DUE TO THE SUBSIDIES BEING TAKEN AWAY.

 

So the US government's own VAERS, and the other vaxx tracking systems like the Europeans Medicines Agency's Eudra Vigilance, Australia's .GOV website DAEN, Database Adverse Event Notifications. And New Zealand's Ministry of Health, and England's Office For National Statistics, ARE ALL LYING TO US?

That's a pretty serious charge Mr Vanvandenburg. You should report that right away, tell all the news outlets, call your congress people, because I haven't heard this, that they are all systematically lying. Maybe you could bring a class action lawsuit, you could be a hero, because no has said this, no one else has noticed. 10's of 1000's of deaths and it's all lies!!! And you've uncovered this!!! YOU CAN DO IT MR. VANVANDENBURG, THE GREATEST HERO OF ALL TIME

 

I go by medical doctors. I hadn't read that Harvard article, will make sure I stay vaccinated so if I am exposed to disease it will protect my heart.

 

The ones that get bonuses from big pharma for prescribing drugs and vaccines?

 

Nope, not those, but the ones above. The covid and other vaccines help protect the heart. Thanks for the opportunity to learn from another failed ant-vaxxer attempt. I probably should have known the vaccines help the heart but didn’t with all the misleading info..

 

Your understanding of vaers is porous

 

I never sent in my vaers reports. The nurse said I should. I don’t see much to argue with when Harvard medical states what they did. Get the vaccines especially if you have heart problems, with personal doctors advice of course.

It’s not my understanding of the vaers system that counts. I’m swayed by partial info as most people are. What counts is Harvard medical school publishing get vaccinated especially if you have heart problems. Not my words, theirs.

 

it's not your understanding of vaers that concerns me

 

So make it plain. The doctors at Harvard are well versed on the reporting system. My gist of it is disease itself causes many times the heart damage a vaccine does, so their advice is lowering the disease severity protects the heart. If you have a cardiologist talk to them, or the regular doctor. If you haven’t already, read the article.

 

vaers is a place to report suspected adverse events. it is not the place to find data on proven adverse reactions to vaccines, such as deaths

 

I know what vaers is, but why is my understanding porous? Anyway I don’t know if anyone read the Harvard article.

 

Do you know what it would mean if a doctor said what was in the article and people died from the vaccine? Yeah right Harvard medical school professors would like a bonus for lying and lose their career and assets. The vaccine protects the heart, how about that stunning factual reversal of your beliefs? Get vaccinated, especially if you have heart problems, they said it, not from me.

 

My reading is that bisco's comment in #426 was not addressed to you. It does follow your post #425, but the posts may have crossed.

It often happens to me that I am replying to one post, and by the time I post my reply, I see another one had come in between. If I notice in time, I might go back and edit my post to contain a quote from what I meant to reply to. I don't always notice in time.

 

I’m ok with it anyway if it was to me, as I know who is sincere or not on here. I want to know my faults.

 

Another person might have said "if that was it, I'm sorry I climbed down bisco's throat over it".

 

Very polarized opinions. Interesting survey:

In 25-Country Survey, Americans Especially Likely To View Fellow Citizens as Morally Bad | Pew Research Center

 

That didn’t happen, and haven’t heard from Bisco if that was his reaction. It’s your view it happened based on your assumptions. .

 

it's true those are all i've got

 

I tried to explain in post #428.
What Harvard article are you referring to?

 

Interesting Survey, but "moral" versus "amoral" is sort of arbitrary without some kind of a STANDARD.
Legal?
Good?

One can have "good values" without being bound by religion, and history certainly proves that there are many amoral people who are thusly bound (most assuredly including ,yours very truly!)

Matthew 7.
It's a little cluttered in the King James Version:
3- And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

SO - a more modern translation: (NKJV)
3 - And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

As far as the specific "morals" in the survey?
For those devotes of the "Accidental Universe Theory" you will have to ask them.

I'm still trying to figure out my Owner's Manual for myself....

(*) Edit:
I used amoral incorrectly above.
By the standards of Christianity, far too many of my actions are immoral rather than amoral.