Brake Fluid Explained

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  1. Georgina Rudkus

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    A really good video on brake fluid.

     
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    No wonder you don’t have to change it anymore
     
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    That was a good video (y)

    Much more pertinent for motos, whose whole systems are more exposed to the elements than a four-wheeled vehicle, which is already pretty exposed. At least cars have more airflow blocked by bodywork -- and on a typical motorcycle, two distinct and non-linked systems (although today a lot of motos have ABS and/or linked brakes like Hondas, so could be considered a single system. Still directly sprayed with pressurised water every time your wash your bike...

    Anyhow... takeaways from a pro wrenching past:
    • not only is DOT3 least of the 3 glycol-based fluids to absorb water, it's cheap too... which is why unless litigation makes your mfr's lawyers uneasy... your car will have DOT3 as OEM
    • most sportbikes are DOT4, esp if they're race replicas (sport ATVs too, ex. Honda TRX400EX or Yamaha 660 / 700R Raptors). Any others, DOT3. probably upgraded in the past 20y to 5.1 tho... but tbh I haven't cared since selling my last moto in the 2010s :p
    • weren't electronic moisture testers back in my day (late '90s - 2010s), and if so, certainly not for $12. Thinking of getting one for the 5G
    • have not seen a single metric motorcycle use DOT5; it's a pretty unpopular fluid in general ime (think Harleys used it for a while). Not sure what genius decided to name it '5.1' rather than '4.1'... but probably results in a population of shadetrees wondering why their '70s muscle-buckets have dragging brakes and a sticking pedal, from bottles of 5 in it (only good thing about 5, is it won't peel your paint off if spilled)
    • almost as if someone designed 5.1 to be used expressly for non-road-legal racecars, knowing the brakes'll get propa-hot, and svc intervals very short and not missed. DOT3's long svc life before needing swapped, is great for those who buy appliances and just put gas in it for 10+ yrs :p
    • lastly... only swap to 5.1 in your DOT3 / 4 vehicle, if you plan on
      • a) swapping it as often as your moisture sensor says to, which'll be a lot, and
      • b) if you're actually going to get your brakes hot regularly in that interval.
    Maybe you cross the Rockies on a particularly infamous pass with a steep grade the other side, commuting to work :p Sure, get 5.1 in your CX-5 and prepare to get dirty (trusting your brakes that many times to a 20-yo fartcan devotee in the local dealer service dept, makes my skin crawl). Otherwise, just a swap to 4 covers just about any sane situation a diligent driver w/ any sense will encounter, and doesn't shorten the svc interval nearly as much.

    If I didn't need 5.1 dropping down the stair-steps of James Street in Seattle, pounding on my race-prepper SV650 down to get to the ferry terminal 5x a week, humid arsecrack of summer... you won't need it in your RAV4 ;)