The connected car scam. You don't own your data

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  1. Georgina Rudkus

    Georgina Rudkus Senior Member

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    The title says it all.

     
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    And, they don't last much beyond the warranty.

    You are programed to buy a new one.
     
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    Same with my phone, I’m constantly deleting cookies, but I’m sure they have other methods
     
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    Gm was selling drivers data to lexis nexis, who was selling to insurance companies
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    My 2023 GMC doesn't have an IMEI number.
    No cellular data - no WiFi.
    No data - until and unless I take it back to the dealer and they hoover it up then, and my intentions are to avoid that if at all possible.
    I buy new - near base model vehicles and drive them for 10-20 years because I dislike car payments.
    I MAKE them - but only for 3-4 years and ONLY because my CFO does not like jacking $25k out of savings for a vehicle..

    (**) Availability: While the OnStar/Connected Services Plan became standard on many 2023 Sierra trims, it was considered an optional feature for the 2023 Sierra Pro trim. If the specific Pro truck was ordered without the OnStar option, it might not have an active IMEI.
     
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    California sued Tesla to allow owners access to the data collected on their subscribers.

    The courts rule that the subscribers did not own the data that Tesla collected. Tesla does.

    Tesla "subscribers" are NOT owners and NEVER will be.
     
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    Haha... If I find 20 years old car (I don't care make or model) that is not a rust bucket in our region I would be very surprised. Yeah, newer is not always better. But modern convenience is now a necessity for many drivers. I for one will not drive a car without heated seat and steering wheels. I don't really care about infotainment system, but if there is an EV with analog key and AM/FM radio, please let me know. I am done with gas engine automobile, so my choices are limited. You can keep driving 20 years old clunkers if you want. I have managed to drive modern surveillance system much less than $5000 Crown Victoria. The last 8 cars I purchased in ~10 years cost average less than $5000 for me. And my insurance has been steadily getting cheaper.