Another EGR thread

Discussion in 'Prius v Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by darknd666, Apr 1, 2026 at 12:01 AM.

  1. rjparker

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    The pressure is to force drops on a borescope test. It can look fine and should either way.
     
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    Im confused by your statement? What do you mean? Are you saying it can still be the head gasket even if no drops form?
     
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    The pressure can hold either way
     
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    So is my test good?
     
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    Ok so Ive added a ziptie and it seems to hold at 16PSI which is from what ive tead the test pressure. Ill just keep monitoring and add pressure as it drops.
     

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    Spark plug conditions for those curious. Left to right 1-4
     

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    This is looking more like an EGR problem and less a blown head gasket, unless the leak is only present under heat soak cycles.
     
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    Sorry I forgot to mention if removing the EGR cooler caused enough coolant to be removed to hinder the coolant pressure test?
     
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    I think what rjparker is getting at is that you can use that pressurization kit to accelerate a borescope test—by pumping up a good pressure in the system, you can make drops form faster so you have a better chance of seeing them on your borescope—but that it wouldn't be a very sensitive test to just rely on watching for a pressure drop. Tiny drops slowly leaking just might not make enough difference in the gauge pressure to notice, or to tease out from the effect of, say, ambient temperature changes during the time that you're watching.
     
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    I left it pressurized and started installing parts. New manifold is in, sensor was cleaned, new gaskets, EGR. I am not seeing a drop of anything in thise cylinders at 20 psi. I will leave it pressurized overnight, there will be some pressure loss at the coolant reservoir because I dont think the seal for the tester is on very well but i made adjustments to ensure it will not come off.

    The spark plugs were pretty much done for, there are pictures of them. Ill install them when they come in the mail. Burp the cooling system. Pump and thermostat are being replaced. I just got the offer accepted on ebay for an OEM new pump $115 is a good deal. OEM thermostat as well. There is evidence that pump or thermostat (maybe both) is going to fail soon...no leaks but there appears to be some evidence of a leak a long time ago. Maybe . But its pretty decrepit looking and its only going to help prevent a head gasket failure.

    My only concern next will be oil consumption, ill do a compression test in the coming days to rule out the piston rings. After reviewing the maintenance history reports i can see that early on its oil was changed every 5k ish. Then the next owner decided 10k oil changes were cool...
     

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    Installed new spark plugs (Rhutheniums), catch can, intake manifold, i drove off with no cowl or undercarriage and it behaved like it never had a problem to begin with. It obviously stuttered on the first start but smoothed out almost immediately. Power band is much stronger and responsive.

    When I go to do the water pump and thermostat ill post what the intake looks like and if there is a pool of oil under the throttle body.
     

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    Water pump and thermostat out for delivery i will post images of the conditions in that area, i.e. pump, thermostat, coolant for thise curious. Im a stickler for water purity, in the past I have just flushed with a hose using tap water. I will drain and fill with 100% distilled, run the pump for a few miles or use the pump run function on my diagnostic tool. Drain the distilled water and fill with Peak Asian formula (pink) 50/50 prediluted.
     
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    You'll be on a fool's-mission: when you drain the distilled water, you'll get 60~70%, and what remains will significantly reduce the overall percentage if you start with a 50/50 pre-mixed coolant. And how to responsibly dispose of all that drained, distilled water/glycol mix? If you're going flush, there's a link in my signature, just some thoughts. (one a phone turn it landscape to see signatures)

    Do yourself a favor, just drain and fill. And ignore the repair manual guidance to drain the engine block; I did that the first time, think I got a couple of ounces.
     

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    So drain and add the distilled water and let it just pass once and then refill with coolant? Or just a simple drain and fill?
     
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    BTW my suspicion of sealant in the system is low, im just changing the pump thermostat and coolant as a precaution, or preventative maintenance.
     
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    When you drain the system, you only get 60~70%. If the only coolant available available is pre-mixed (and the hands-down favourite, Toyota Super Long Life, only comes thus), you have a quandary. Just drain-and-fill. Have a look through the attachment, the refill process is a little different, basically fill to the "B" line, cap everything, and run till fully warmed. And you need to put the car in maintenance, to prevent it shutting down. (the @NutzAboutBolts engine coolant change shows that well)

    Worth noting: last change I did, I had the front raised, even during the warm up. I figured I'd warmed it sufficiently, crawled under to reinstall the engine underpanel, felt the coolant hoses down there, and they were still stone-cold. Started it up again (in maintenance mode), and just laid there, thinking about life, occasionally checking the hose temps. Finally the thermostat opened, and within minutes everything was toasty, done.

    The link in signature about "flushing out engine stop-leak products" is more-or-less expressly for that: if there is a stop-leak product in the coolant, at least one product can apparently be flushed with a 50/50 mix of water and white vinegar, followed by repeated flushes. And then the conundrum of how to get back to 50/50. The only route I can see is to score some 100% coolant, say Toyota Long Life Coolant (note the missing "Super"), pour in half the spec'd system capacity, then top up with distilled water.
     
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    Here's an updated engine coolant change pdf, with Inspection Mode (aka Maintenance Mode) tacked on the end.

    It's a verbose doc, here's the gist:

    Perform the following steps from (1) through (4) in 60 seconds.

    (1) Turn the power switch on (IG).
    (2) Fully depress the accelerator pedal three times with park (P) selected.
    (3) Fully depress the accelerator pedal three times with neutral (N) selected. (need to push brake to shift to N)
    (4) Fully depress the accelerator pedal three times with park (P) selected.
     

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    If you have sealant to flush then consider multiple drain and fills. I would not put other chemicals in there since acidic conditions degrade seals and gaskets.

    There is reasonable evidence even Toyota SLL left far too long could be a hg leak contributing factor, along with primary design issues resolved with gen4.

    Multiple drain and fills could use distilled water for $1 a gallon but takes about ten times with the engine warmed up each time to sufficiently dilute KSeal (which is the only good reason to do multiple drain and fills).

    No contaminates? No distill water yet? Use a gallon of SLL premix to fill it and you are good.

    Otherwise use Toyota Concentrated which is cheaper. Figure you have half the fill with distilled water still in there and add a gallon of concentrate.

    You are supposed to check the coolant condition with test strips every oil change anyway (brake fluid as well) and any coolant past the factory fill is 50k mile or less. Including SLL or Concentrate.

    Unless you have a 2010, you won't have an air release valve and don't need to squeeze the radiator hoses.

    If you do multiple distilled water flushes, use the gallon jugs the water comes in for the drained coolant.
     
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    Im pretty sure this is not an OEM thermostat. The box looked pretty convincing, but no toyota name or logo. To whoever warned me, I have now become a community example .
     

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