Texas governor orders anti-cancer vaccine for schoolgirls

Why would anyone in their right mind be against treatment to prevent cancer. It would be like not getting a polio shot and just hoping not to get it.

 

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/02/D8N1PVG80.html

AUSTIN (AP) -- Gov. Rick Perry ordered Friday that schoolgirls in Texas must be vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer, making Texas the first state to require the shots.
The girls will have to get Merck & Co.'s new vaccine against strains of the human papillomavirus, or HPV, that are responsible for most cases of cervical cancer.

Merck is bankrolling efforts to pass laws in state legislatures across the country mandating it Gardasil vaccine for girls as young as 11 or 12. It doubled its lobbying budget in Texas and has funneled money through Women in Government, an advocacy group made up of female state legislators around the country.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Feb 3 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]384931[/snapback]</div>

That is because the indication is preventing cervical cancer. I don't know if it actually prevents infection, which anyway its asymptomatic.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Feb 3 2007, 03:46 PM) [snapback]384931[/snapback]</div>

They should be. Where do the women get it from in the first place?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Feb 3 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]384927[/snapback]</div>

If they do they're idiots. I approve of this call. Good for the governer, not folding to conservative religious righties who assert that this vaccine will cause girls to have more sex. Too bad this texas governer isn't the president instead of the idiot we have.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Feb 3 2007, 05:34 PM) [snapback]384950[/snapback]</div>

Like all vaccines, these mandates are qualified with the parent's ability to decline these vaccines via affidavit due to religious or philisophical beliefs. I know, it's a pain on the individual level. But it seems like this is the best compromise to try and protect the public while preserving the individual's rights to be invaded by state mandated vaccines if that's their choice.

 

Why out of the blue is this becoming mandatory? I'm not buying it. I have a gut feeling something is fishy about all this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCrUmDa6tT0

This video is EXCELLENT(please watch the whole thing) but the reason I have posted it is at around 5 minutes in.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Feb 3 2007, 05:46 PM) [snapback]384952[/snapback]</div>

I suppose I would qualify as an idiot because I would absolutely refuse to comply with any state mandated vaccine. It is a violation of my civil right's, my reproductive rights as well as those of my daughter. Call me crazy but if I remember correctly, this is the same goverment that once said smoking was good for your health, DDT was safe and necessary, blacks and women were inherentely unequal, and mostly recently "mission accomplished!"

And let me add, I have a couple of ideas that could also protect the public, like a rape vaccine given at birth to all males to prevent sexual aggression or an anti religious fundamentalist vaccine that could prevent people from participating in wars in the name of God. Now that's some research I'd be willing to fund.

This type of mandate with all of its unethical connections is outrageous. It is not just a "pain" but an invasion into one's personal life. I am the decider of my life--no one else. . . wasn't this already decided in the constitution.

 

well... women are the only ones at risk for cancer. while men are capable of spreading it, they don't have the whole susceptibility to life-threatening disease thing. i don't see a need to vaccinate males provided that females are vaccinated.

i'm sure they've tried like hell to get policy in place to vaccinate males as well, after all that doubles their profits...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Feb 3 2007, 12:46 PM) [snapback]384931[/snapback]</div>

My understanding is that they are in trials for the vaccine to be used on males. Since the HPV is pretty much benign for males, they were more concerned about getting the vaccine to market for teen girls, who have the most exposure to cervical cancer as a result of HPV. IIRC, it protects against the most virulent forms of the virus, about 85% of the total or something like that.

When the vaccine is approved for males, I think it should be encouraged for all boys and girls at around the time they have other boosters ... 12, I think. That's significantly before the onset of most sexual activity and could help wipe out cervical cancer in our lifetimes. There are some very surprising studies about the number of young women in their 20's who test positive for HPV on college campuses; its a very high percentage. Even for those that are not sexually active, since HPV is asymptomatic in males, the young woman could marry someone who did not know they were infected and end up like poor Eva Peron.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluejay @ Feb 3 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]384989[/snapback]</div>

Don't you think the polio vaccine was a good idea?

 

As a woman who had HPV with cancerous changes, I will have my daughter get this vaccine. I was 36 when I had a total hysterectomy. Luckily I had finished having the children I wanted to have (1). 5 years after the hysterectomy I developed a condition in my fallopian tubes that is usually only seen when a woman has had both a hysterectomy and her tubes tied (I did...I had my tubes tied 1 year before the hyst). I spent 3 days in the hospital and 8 weeks recovering.

If there had been an HPV vaccine when I was younger, If I had received it, If I had not developed cervical cancer, I would have avoided 2 surgeries.

I worked for 15 years in Public Health in the immunization program. I vaccinated 1,00s of kids and saw a few new vaccines come along. The same questions and concerns that are raised in this thread were raised when Hepatits B vaccine was introduced.

Bottom...vaccines are a good thing and most (if not all states have mandates about which ones are given to whom at what age.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Feb 3 2007, 04:25 PM) [snapback]384947[/snapback]</div>

Do you know who's term he completed?

Also, check out him putting the construction of 17 new conventional coal-fired power plants on the fast track > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6110191

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Feb 4 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]385139[/snapback]</div>

I see both sides of this issue too. On the one hand, people should be able to choose their own level of preventative health care for the reasons you cited (i.e., the choice to eat at McDonalds every day, drink alcohol, etc. are all inherently dangerous activities). And HPV is entirely, absolutely preventable with "lifestyle choices" (don't have sex with anyone who has had sex with someone else).

In this case, I think there might be an advantage for those parents who worry that such a vaccine would signal that the state expects their children to have sex: if everyone gets it, there is no stigma. It would make it easier for the doctor to provide along with the 12 year measles booster (or whatever it is they give at 12); "Mrs. Wilson, it's time for Denise's 12 year booster and HPV vaccine."

Beyond the idea of a state requiring it, conservative parents should recognize that their daughter's future husband could be a carrier due to prior activity before he decided to go on the straight and narrow. Young men are hesitant to discuss prior sexual activities with their future wives, and its considered a minor lie to not disclose this among young men. That minor lie can kill their daughters.

Does anyone know if the blood tests before marriage test for HPV?

 

Maybe its a conspiracy, maybe they are actually giving the girls a medication that stops their sex drive until they are 25 (so they just dont want it, the whole abstain campagn!)

Or they are using the girls as lab rats by testing new meds on them them..

Or maybe they are turning them into an army of elite fighters like below: