How much is your local "Trump at the Pump Tax?"

Driving habits are very important in order to achieve 50 or over in those cars, but in a Prius, and plug in versions, not nearly as difficult, especially starting with gen4. I was always able to exceed those old government economy figures by my driving. The 85 Camry hatchback I bought new for $11k was always in low-mid 40’s on trips, was amazed by it at the time because it was also comfortable and could carry a lot.

 

Ironically GM scuttled their Chevy (edit;VOLT) which primarily drove Electric for most owners - including yours truly. We had one, but like the Gen 5 Prius, if you're well North of 6 ft tall it's especially difficult to get in & out - once youre getting older & joints are stiffer.
If prices stay high, what a great opportunity it would be for GM to bring that Tech back into production in one form or another
The other manufacturer Chrysler gets a decent amount of sales with their plug-in minivan. Who would ever think something as heavy as a minivan could get mileage like ours, turning on how infrequent you burn gas.



Having just over 30,000 miles after nearly 9 years means yeah - we don't drive that far - especially since retiring.
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I was able to convert ~$65 k of Tesla, no dividend and capital gains tax into my solar roof with over $1,000 per year cost avoidance using Biden incentives:

• Starting second year of many more to come.
• My house is more valuable due to solar roof
  • My life is more affordable and independent

Bob Wilson

 

Could be? I feel like I was being asked to believe that a horrible bogeyman had forced this on America, when as near as I can tell it was just another law that made it through both houses of congress and was signed into law by the president.

I don't have the clearest memory of this particular legislation coming around and being enacted but I didn't pay as much attention to politics back then- this was something that happened 15 years ago.

But I'll wait for @John321 to respond.

 

No.

For an example, take my RAV4, using (rounded figures) of 14 kWh of energy per charge, and a power rate of either 1.4 kW on L1, or 7 kW on L2.

Regardless of power rate, the 14 kWh (at $0.05/kWh) element costs $0.70. Done every day all month, that adds up to $21 for the month.

If charged only outside peak hours, demand charge is $0.00. Zero. Nada.

If charged during peak hours even once at L1, that adds an extra $5.60 for the entire month. But doing it every day doesn't add any more, it still costs just $5.60 for the entire month.

If charged during peak hours even once at full L2, that adds an extra $28.00 for the entire month. But doing it every day doesn't add any more, it still costs just $28.00 for the entire month.

Adding the energy and demand charges, that means charging every day will cost either $21.00, or $26.60, or $49.00 for the whole month, depending on rate and time of day.

But note that if you charge just a single day during the entire month, the cost will be either $0.70, or $6.30, or $28.70, depending on rate and time of day. That means the per-kWh price will be either $0.05, or $0.45, or $2.05/kWh. That higher rate is equivalent to buying gasoline at $26/gallon.

They must avoid charging every peak period for the entire billing cycle. If they charge during peak period even once during the billing month, their demand charge will be the same as if they did it during every peak period.