Rotating tires without long reach jack

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by C Clay, Jun 9, 2026 at 10:38 AM.

  1. C Clay

    C Clay Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2012
    386
    75
    0
    Location:
    Lexington, KY
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius
    Model:
    L Eco
    I’ve had this 2019 for a 2-3 months. I have jack that meets most of my needs- but the front jack point is way back there on this model (coming from a Gen 3).

    AI is suggesting that can you raise the side of the car at the weld, and that the whole side will raise just enough to take both wheels off. Seems unlikely - AI used to give its source, that’s getting harder to determine it seems.

    How are you all accomplishing this task?
     
  2. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2018
    8,220
    7,720
    1
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius c
    Model:
    Two
    I go to the neighborhood fixaflat. They do it in 6 minutes for $20.

    I still change my own oil and do a lot of other maintenance myself, but when it comes to tire rotation I can't compete with that at home.
     
  3. C Clay

    C Clay Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2012
    386
    75
    0
    Location:
    Lexington, KY
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius
    Model:
    L Eco
    I’m thinking the same. But I hate to miss the opportunity to look underneath and inspect the brakes.
     
  4. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    28,503
    18,845
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    That's me, too. I like to do a reasonably thorough brake inspection at each rotation.

    I do have a long floor jack now. When I didn't, I just put four jackstands under the corners one by one with a little jack. Tedious but gets the job done. You want jackstands under the car anyway, not just your jack.
     
    C Clay likes this.
  5. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    8,444
    7,420
    0
    Location:
    Redneck Riviera (Gulf South)
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Probably a bit of overkill - but I've seen similar ideas.
    Always use jack stands ;)



    I have the otha problem.
    By jack really is too small for my truck - so I use a '2x6 lift' on the jack to give me an extra inch and a half to yank the tires.
     
    #5 ETC(SS), Jun 9, 2026 at 12:49 PM
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2026 at 12:57 PM
  6. C Clay

    C Clay Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2012
    386
    75
    0
    Location:
    Lexington, KY
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius
    Model:
    L Eco
    Chief, I’m assuming you drive up on those ramps just a little bit so that you can see and reach the jack point?

    (By the way, you’re the first submariner that I’ve been able to chat with since I saw something on TV a couple weeks ago. A tour guide was saying that submarines will often store food in canisters in the birthing space when they first go underway for an extended period. True?)
     
  7. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    8,444
    7,420
    0
    Location:
    Redneck Riviera (Gulf South)
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Yep.
    "walking on cans" is a thing for a few weeks after a 120-day loadout.
    A good Chief "Culinary Specialist" will arrange things so you can 'eat your way to the deck.'

    Fun fact:
    Unlike the rest of the government, the military actually has to run on a fixed budget - at least at the unit level.
    What this means is that warships are 'issued' food before a deployment and they 'expend it' as it is eaten.
    I've seen crews eat lavishly towards the end of a patrol because the "Chop"(*) didn't use enough money to feed the crew according to some notional "guideline."
    I've also seen food written off as destroyed by fire, flooding, etc administratively after they spent too much money feeding the crew and needed an excuse.
    Whose' to know?

    Since we used to keep things like eggs (**) down near the bilges, and since it's not uncommon for water to get into the people tank - it's plausible.

    (*) nicknamed for the Supply Corps emblem which resembles a Pork Chop.
    (**) They used to last about 6-7 weeks up north - depending on things like spices and how often they fail the float test.
     
    C Clay likes this.
  8. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    28,503
    18,845
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    After a few prongs of speculation, I've decided you most likely wrote 'berthing' and got autocorrected.

    Now I can't shake the picture of Pete Hegseth waving your post around as evidence of wokeness needing eradication.
     
  9. Georgina Rudkus

    Georgina Rudkus Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2018
    3,547
    2,589
    0
    Location:
    Taylors, SC
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Two
    I have experimented with many systems to lift cars for work and tire rotation.

    These included expensive Safe Jacks Rennstands, the Bend Pax Quick jack system, the newer VKRP budget jacking system similar to Rennstands and the Harbor Freight aluminum flat top racing jack.

    After nearly 15 years of experimentation and development and attempting to find the least expensive and easiest to use system, I have developed the current best option.

    Most all jacking systems failures are the result of the car falling off the top lifting point of the jack. Preventing this from happening prevents damage to the underbody of the car and more importantly, personal injury.

    Better than the larger awkward and heavier Harbor Freight 1.5 ton aluminum racing jack is the really inexpensive, compact and well made $42 Walmart 2 ton trolley jack weighing in at 18 pounds with an easy to carry top suitcase like handle.

    The top swivel cup is not ideal for lifting ant Toyota at or near the pinch weld. Used as is will damage the fabricated sheet metal.

    The key is a replacement adapter that locks onto the pinch weld without damaging it and keep the top of the jack firmly locked, while allowing the hack to roll to compensate for the changing geometry of the car as it is lifted.

    Similar adapters are available especially for aluminum jacks stands sold by Big Red, Harbor Freight and many other vendors.

    The cars rails inboard from the pinch welds are as strong as the pinch weld jacking points and can be used with the adapted jack for lifting to place the jack stands.

    The uploaded photos show how this system works.

    jack stand placement.jpg side view on jack stand.jpg side view on jack stand close.jpg entry.jpg car lifted.jpg
     
  10. BiomedO1

    BiomedO1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2021
    4,411
    2,323
    0
    Location:
    Left Coast
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    LE
    FWIW: I wouldn't jack up a unibody on one side to get both wheels off - That's a good way to bend it....... The AI doesn't care if you drive around on a bent frame. Ladder bar construction is another matter entirely.

    I have a spare for road trips and do one corner at a time.
     
  11. C Clay

    C Clay Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2012
    386
    75
    0
    Location:
    Lexington, KY
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius
    Model:
    L Eco
    Correct, they only have birthing spaces on the larger ships.
     
  12. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk MMX GEN III

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    61,265
    42,121
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Low rise ramps:

    IMG_4120.jpeg

    Not for our 2010, but a couple of other cars.
     
  13. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2018
    8,220
    7,720
    1
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius c
    Model:
    Two
    Well, I get a pretty good view over the guy's shoulder. This all happens outdoors in the driveway, and there's not really any other place for me to wait or anything else to do, so I peek at the brakes. And my c model has rear drum brakes anyway, less to look at.
     
  14. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    28,503
    18,845
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Still, I was halfway to a plausible explanation ... you'll be reassigned if you're showing at the time of leaving port, and if you're not, the cans will be used up by the time you need the space.
     
  15. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    28,503
    18,845
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    I generally take the pads out, measure them and note mileage and thickness, clean the fitting-kit clips (or replace them if need be), push/pull the slide pins till the grease feels awake, look for any rubber boot damage or rotor surface weirdness, then reassemble.

    The tire-rotation guy would probably get bored while I did that.