2024 Prime XSE - change tire and rim size?

Googling this:

2023 toyota prius 17" rim part number

I get:

AI Overview
The part numbers for the 2023 Toyota Prius 17" alloy wheel are 42611-47651, 42611-47701, 95649, or TX015, according to Detroit Wheel and Tire. These are factory OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) part numbers for the 17" alloy wheel. The wheel has a 17" diameter, 6.5" width, 5 lug holes, and a 5-114.3 bolt pattern. The offset is 40.

Looking up the first two part numbers on Toyota USA parts site, respectively:

Wheel, Disc

Wheel, Disc

^ Both for "suggested retail price" of $549.06 USD apiece, It would be handy if the site would at least mention diameter, ah well. "Think" it's them.

Using the check dealers function, entering 90210, North Hollywood Toyota is asking a paltry $412.61 USD per rim:

Wheel, Disc

So going through dealership, getting the stock 17" wheel covers as well, about 2 grand USD, out-the-door, for a set of 4.

 

I would think that if the XE uses the same disk, caliper bracket, and caliper you'd be good to go.

 

I think it's been thus for some time.

With 3rd gen there was some variations in suspension/steering if you had the larger (17"") variant. Not a physical impediment to switching, but I believe Toyota was ok with downsizing from 17" to 15" (which we do every fall), but less ok going from 15" stock wheel vehicle to 17". Lot's did it though, no big deal.

AFAIk, from gen4 onward, no such variations.

 

Parts and Prices List:
Prices - 1. MSRP - 2. Typical discounted price - 3. Max discount during sales
$549.06 - $379.60 - $284.70 - 42611-47651 or 42611-47701 - 17" alloy wheel - same wheels, just different suppliers - need 4
$116.09 - $80.26 - $60.20 - 42602-47320 - 17" wheel cover - need 4
$82.09 - $56.75 - $42.56 - 42607-0E090 - TPMS sensor - need 4
$113.76 - $78.65 - $58.99 - 42611-21280 - spare wheel (compact) - need 1
$132.65 - $91.71 - $68.78 - 09105-47020 - tool set - need 1
$160(Toyo) or $200(Bridgestone) - 195/60-17 - tires (full size) - need 4
$100 to $125 - 145/90-16 - tire (spare) - need 1

So complete cost:
Main Tires
$284.70 + $60.20 + $42.56 + $180(avg) = $567.46 x 4 = $2269.84

Spare Tire & Tools:
$58.99 + $100 + $68.78 = $227.77

Total
$2269.84 + $227.77 + $100(mounting, balancing, other incidentals) = roughly $2600.

 

I'm not sure you need new TPMS sensors. Couldn't they be moved to the new wheels? Also, if he's got a spare I wouldn't think that it would be all that unusable for the new tire sizes as he's not changing the outer diameter of the tire, just the inner (wheel) diameter.

 

It's possible to swap TPMS sensors over, but it might be worth just getting a new set. First, you'd have to pay a tire shop to break the bead on all four old tires and remove the sensors. That wouldn't be free. And if you're planning on selling the old wheels to make some money back, they'll be more valuable if they still have sensors. Between the two, you'll probably save the $170 you'll spend on the new sensors.

As for the spare, he/she doesn't currently have one. No US Prius comes with one, and they don't fit inside a Prime/PHV anyway. If they choose to add a spare, they'll have to strap it down in the back or stick it in the back seat.

 

You would want the hubcaps also for 17's

 

That's on the list. Toyota calls them wheel covers.

Unless you're talking about the actual center caps for the wheels. In that case, you don't need both the center caps and the wheel covers, just one or the other.

 

Looks like this is the most recent thread on this topic.

Rodents destroyed the traction battery in my 2018 Prime Advanced. Insurance totaled it so I needed to get something quick and got a '23 XSE lease return yesterday. Already know I do NOT want those 19" rims (which I didn't know it had, didn't research enough, my bad), MPG clearly takes a hit. For real life data there is a steep hill on a 50 MPH road on the way home. With summer tires the '18 would speed up with foot off the accelerator, with winter tires, it held speed. The XSE held speed with the 19" all weather tires (Toyo Extensa AS) yesterday. I can't imagine how bad it will be with winter tires. First time I've bought a car that gets worse mileage than what it replaced since getting my first Prius in 2004.

Also didn't notice until I got it home - no jack, no pump for the bottle of goo that "fixes" a flat while destroying the TPMS sensor and there is no "key" for the damned locking lug nuts. One is supposed to be happy when they get a new car but I'm not there given the '18 had only 54K miles on it. When my wife drove it 70 miles round trip to work 6 days a week all winter it was getting 68-72 MPG (minimal interstate, mostly rural at 25-50 MPH, no charging at work). In the summer I could drive it (no interstate) nearly 40 miles on electric.

Consensus here is that anything that will fit an SE will fit the XSE so my question is: can I just get the cheapest 17" alloy rims TireRack sells that fit the SE? I'm not a "rim guy", I don't care what they look like. Out of stock at the moment but the Enkei Performance Draco are less than $117/rim. I plan to have a local shop take the TMPS sensors out of the current rims, put them in the new rims and remount the 19" then sell them for whatever I can get. I guess I should let them see if they can find me similarly cheap rims before buying from TireRack. I hope they can get me a good price on new tires since I really prefer to support local small owner operated businesses. However, I'm already out $12K+ replacing a car that I had no plans to replace any time soon so price is a necessary evil.

Also, having had bad experiences with no spare, what "doughnut" rim will fit the car? Yes I know it will have to live in the back or behind the driver's seat. Or on the cargo tray for trips after I get the 2" receiver EcoHitch from Torklift. Would have missed a wedding 2 years ago if I wasn't carrying the spare from my wife's rusted out and scrapped 2006, sadly it won't fit the '23.

Thanks for any input.
Bruce

 

Water under the bridge, but how extensive was the rodent damage? Wiring harnesses in need of replacement as well?

Come to think of it, you had the plug-in battery, the big one.

better install 1/4” spacing, galvanized steel anti-rodent mesh on your new Prius, all the egress points.

Toyota’s done some serious shrinkflation on the 5th gen, for sure.

for the missing security lug nut socket:

then replace with regular lug nut, or a fresh set of the security kind. Tape your phone no on the security socket.

 

Cell stack 2,3 & 4 of the traction battery. I don't know how rodents get in. Service lady said $15K just to replace the battery (of which apparently none exist in the country and Toyota isn't making them anymore despite them being in every Pime from 2017 through 2022). Doesn't include dismantling for the pictures the insurance company wanted and other things.

And yeah, Toyota is cheeping out. My 2018 had self parking, my daughter's '22 XLE (non prime) has it. Doesn't exist in the 2023 cars. Sad because I use it and it works REALLY well. Plus, still no rear wiper (the '22 XLE has one), not something one can get aftermarket.

Thanks for the video, I'll follow it if the dealer doesn't want to fix it.

 

FYI, the top trims have the self park option. Specifically the LTD(HEV) and XSE Premium(PHEV) with the Advanced Tech Packages.

 

A lot of questions here regarding plug-in versus hybrid version, which to get. Those are words to the wise.

 

Its better to start your own since the previous guy's post will likely get responses again confusing your issue.

Certainly.finding another 2018 would not have cost you an extra $12k.

I agree the smaller tires will give you marginally better mpg and a better ride, however I would not get heavier wheels to save money. Its possible your mph and odo readings would be slightly impacted.

Ideally you find someone who would trade wheels and tires as an assembly because they like yours. Maybe slightly prorate the set with the most tire wear.

As far as Prime battery availability problems, that is because the large Prime battery packs don't lose enough capacity to disable the hybrid system. Accidents and rodents are total events because Toyota does not repair battery packs. An independent rebuilder might have attempted a repair using wire by wire soldering assuming it was only wiring damage.

If you have a gen2 or gen3 straight hybrid you can lose enough battery capacity to disable the car.