How much is your local "Trump at the Pump Tax?"

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    I was very pleased with our Hybrid Heat Pump Hot Water Heater impact on our electric bill.
    Because of that we bought a Heat Pump Clothes Dryer - I was not prepared for the impact that made on our Utility Bill in the winter- the fact that the Heat Pump Dryer is ventless and not exhausting conditioned air to the atmosphere outside the home and then pulling unconditioned air into the home that must be conditioned is a energy saving game changer.
     
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    The job creators are the customers. The middle class mainly is the creator of jobs, not business owners. When the people have money to spend, jobs are created. More jobs, more people spending their wages, makes more jobs.
     
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    It isn't just what people spend: even when they save, lots of people are using stocks for their long-term savings, which is another way of supplying the capital the business owners build their businesses with.
     
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    ..and others use their capital to build opportunity for others.......

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    This kind of misunderstanding never seems to crop up about cars. You won't read that What drives a car are the wheels, not the engine. When the wheels turn, the car goes. Yet, one can read with some frequency that supply side stimulus is not real, because demand drives an ecomony.

    A working economy allows middle class people to run business and hire workers to make items or provide services to the benefit of the business, the people it employs and the customers served.

    People bringing better goods and services to market at lowers prices typically keep supply up enough that prices stay reasonable and most of us can get what we need. Recent experience with toilet paper and eggs show how important the efficiency of those mechanisms can be to us. Without that supply system, it doesn't really matter whether people have currency. A suitcase full of currency in the Soviet Union in the 1950s couldn't buy you a new 8 cylinder sedan because there weren't any for ordinary people to buy.

    Demand side stimulus is real, however it isn't the only real phenomenon.
     
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    It still boils down to the customer. Businesses aren’t built and last without customers. I would say the claim businesses create jobs is a lie. If you have a lemonade stand you won last long without customers. Businesses need to hire people when there are more customers. It’s a lie promoted by businesses so long, that they are the job creators, people believe it.
     
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    Please explain to me when/how a company issuing stock ever sees another $, AFTER the IPO, when the stock openly trades on the free market. Please don't use stock buy-backs as your example. Thank You.