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  1. Mr.Vanvandenburg

    Mr.Vanvandenburg Senior Member

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    When you allow yourself to be manipulated like you have, you believe all those things about President Obama. There is actually a real story behind each of your indoctrinations. Take he pushed for national insurance. The ACA is a law passed by Congress. Good that he pushed for it, and Congress approved, but it isn’t itself insurance. Do you do any reading beyond the indoctrination? Medicare is national insurance. The ACA isn’t insurance. Same for the rest of your attempts to write what President Obama did. Nothing was unlawful, nothing wrong was done, including the tan suit.
    if you don’t like or dislike to hear President Obama had eight years from me why are you immediately listing the other presidents? Because you can’t accept one positive word about him. He has to be diminished. That’s been right wing strategy, all negative, all the time. That’s why we today laugh at their tan suit attacks.
    Your recollection of President Obama needs a supplement of truth.
     
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    Let's help you read. Did I say "he pushed for national insurance? Or did I write,

    Except as it pertained to employment benefits, medical insurance regulation had largely been a matter of state regulation prior to the ACA. The ACA imposed a substantially new layer of federal regulation on policy content.

    After passage, the ACA suffered a number of setbacks as various aspects were challenged an found unconstitutional. The ACA leveraged Medicaid payments to force state compliance with ACA terms. That was found unconstitutional early on. The penalty for the individual mandate was defective as a regulation of interstate commerce, but saved as a tax despite legislative history emphatically denying that it was a tax. Congress eventually repealed the penalty.

    That's how we pass laws federally. Do you understand that one can be the president and push for legislation?

    How long would you have liked me to wait to point out the dubious relevance of your observation?

    That you do not understand that it neither diminishes nor enhances Obama to note the other presidents elected to the same number of terms is a critique of your reasoning, not Obama.


    Clearly, there was a great deal more repubs made an issue about than a tan suit. If it peeves you that people remember other issues like

    ...then maybe you should ask yourself why.
     
  3. Mr.Vanvandenburg

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    I already explained your falsehoods. First I said eight year Obama, that’s the entirety. Then you seem to think it’s some sort of statement there weren’t others. Sorry to rain on your parade, Obama was President two consecutive terms, getting the popular vote both times. You can’t find anything wrong with him there.
    The next one is the ACA is national insurance. You were wrong, apparently you don’t know what the ACA is. Medicare is insurance.
    So on down the line, everything you concluded about him is a falsehood. That’s how well they indoctrinated you.
    Why aren’t you seeing the present.
     
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