New tire requirements = a few more centavos added to tire price

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  1. Stevewoods

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    Why is fewer choices a good thing? This will raise the price for us too because LRR will corner the market.
     
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    You may have heard of this little thing called global warming.

    When scientists first debated global warming, I admit I took the skeptical side, but after 20+ years I think the evidence is fairly clear. If the cost of an additional $28 USD per set of four tires is correct, with potential savings rising to close to $200 in fuel costs...well...
     
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    Yeah because rubber tires are the cause of global warming and therefore we need politicians to regulate something we need for our cars. Bullocks.
     
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    LRR does not make a tire good. On my third hybrid now and I still use Defenders...because they are a better product.

    ...and what the hell am I going to run on my ZR1? What about truck tires?

    Screw California politics...and I can say that being native...just in case that hurts anyone's sensitive feelings.
     
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    meh.

    I live on free soil - and tyres are easily.....replaceable!
    The PRC can change how car manufacturers build cars - and they can even force many of them to use more LRR tyres- but unlike emissions equipment that had to be designed into the car - the Climate Industrial Complex cannot "corner the market" on tyres.
    Tyres are user-replaceable.
    SO MUCH SO, that America has more than a few........TIRE SHOPS.

    LRR tires are billiard-ball hard - so they're not exactly wonderful at traction.
    That's fine if you're driving some soulless Johnny-cab inspired transportation appliance that waddles around in afternoon bumper-to-bumper traffic but for those of us who still live on free soil?

    We still have choices. :)
     
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    It’ll presumably have independent testing, a plus. Bottom of the linked article has a long list of exceptions, might keep “enthusiasts” happy.
     
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    If I still lived in L.A., I'd probably be happy about the possibility of continued economic growth without so many environmental consequences.

    If I lived anywhere rural in California, I'd probably be upset about the heavy-handed regulation limiting my choices.

    At least they're disappointing a smaller crowd.
     
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    The supposed cost savings for the LRR tyres are an exagerration that even the current administration hasn't been guilty of, and it sounds like the 'exceptions' roll through a fairly wide segment of the replacement tyre market.
    There's also enforcement.

    REPLACEMENT tyres.
    What are they going to do?
    Require their already odious "emmissions" testing to cover tyre types?
    Down-check a car for black market Michelin Super Sports?

    Sounds like click-bait or one of the governor's leg-humpers looking to score some clicks and likes for the boss....which 'may' deflate the boss' already skidding political numbers....
     
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    Has LRR tire testing been standardized or can I just slap an LRR label on a tire to sell it for more money???
     
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    It is my understanding that the LRR label is a self-certification deal, and I have long suspected abuse for more sales.

    On the other hand, I noticed that this proposal out of California doesn't say anything at all about the LRR label.

    Instead, they are pushing for actual measurements- meaning we could potentially see tires that are sold as LRR but don't pass the CEC's formulaic test, and tires that do pass the test but don't wear the LRR label.
     
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    This is similar to labeling; which is standardized - but supplements are the wild, wild, west.... Unless there are standardized testing, the law is a joke; because the manufacturer can say the tire is LRR because it's less sticky than the race track tires they sell.