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Dealers and the EV Switch

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by gpb5200, Mar 3, 2007.

  1. gpb5200

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Allannde @ Feb 22 2007, 04:39 PM) [snapback]394815[/snapback]</div>
    Anyone have the name/location of dealers that would install it?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gpb5200 @ Mar 3 2007, 12:38 PM) [snapback]399578[/snapback]</div>
    One of the dealers who reported doing it was located near Seattle, Washington (Bellevue, I think). The other was not named by the PC member who said "my dealer installed mine".

    Have you asked your dealer?

    I installed mine in less than an hour using these instructions at a cost of less than $5.00.

    http://www.calcars.org/prius-evbutton-install.pdf

    It is not rocket science. It is important not to be sloppy and to follow the instructions.

    There are several types. You need to pick one whether you do it or have it done.

    There is the one from Coastal which is activated by the Cruise Control lever
    There is the High Beam Flasher type which is a DIY job (see darelldd's site) (I think it is evnut.com)
    There is the Momentary Switch type which is also DIY and involves no touching of the wiring of the car.
    There is the OEM (factory) switch type which is available from Sigma which looks stock but is harder. This is also the most expensive

    Do a search on the site. There is lots of information.
     
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    For your EV mod I'd suggest going to a custom car radio/stereo installer. They're generally much more willing to do such mods whereas a lot of dealers are more 'by-the-book' about such things when they're unfamiliar. when you go in come armed with a copy of some install instructions so they have some idea what they're getting into.

    You didn't mention if you were planning on an OEM type button or the Coastal Mod...the Coastal mod really is a DIY thing that just about anyone could do. The OEM button involves a few other steps and some dash deconstruction, but it's still not difficult and any decent radio installer should be able to do it in an hour or less.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Mar 3 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]399654[/snapback]</div>
    If I could get the dealership to install it, I would do the OEM. If the warranty would remain intact, I would probably just go with the Coastal Mod, or something similar.
     
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    Hello gpb5200

    There are several very helpful threads on the installation of block heaters. I had my dealer do mine because it is not easy to do. It is not impossible, but it is hard.

    I understand your reluctence to install the EV switch. It isn't the installation which could hurt the traction battery, it is the the way it could be used later. Most likely the negative consequence (if any) would be poorer mpg. As has been pointed out, all electricity in the Prius is generated by the ICE. There is a loss of efficiency in the generation process. That is to say, power directly from the ICE is the most efficient for most circumstances. Torque at startup and when the ICE is cold are exceptions to that rule. So for the most part, the EV switch needs to be used sparingly. But used wisely, it helps.

    There is an option other than a dealer. Sometimes a firm which does consumer electronic repair, especially for cars, will do such things. They may not have done this particular job before and so it would be good to print out the instructions which I referenced for them. It is not a complicated job if I could do it!

    On the other hand, you might think about why you want to do it. Frankly, there is nothing magic about it. The most useful thing, in my view is that if I want to move my car a short distance (like out of the garage for washing) without startiing the cold engine, I can.

    Others use the EV button lots, some in connection with "Hypermiling". They swear by it. But that requires quite a bit of skill. I am glad I have the EV switch, but I could live without it. I didn't come to this point of view until I had the switch, however.

    I hope my comments are helpful.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Allannde @ Mar 3 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]399674[/snapback]</div>
    They have been. I had thought about using it to get out of my neighborhood w/o using the ICE at all and back into it on return trips. Theoretically, coupled with an engine block heater in the morning, as long as it is not too cold outside, that should be able to get me that mile, give or take without using a drop of gas, provided too, that the battery has enough juice, which now that I think of it, it might not if I were to return home with a diminished charge and have to leave in the morning with the same diminished charge. Yep, it might just not be worth it, now that you mention it.
    Thanks again!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gpb5200 @ Mar 3 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]399682[/snapback]</div>
    did you ever get around to this or no? i live in RI/MA and am getting ready to install my engine block heater, mud flaps and oem ev switch. i am waiting a 2-3 weeks while i figure out my can reader route so i can do that at the same time if i go with the can view v4 or similar. during discussions, someone recommended that i record the whole installation process and host it freely online so that people may better be able to understand what is involved and how to go about it (as well as give me critiques :)).

    long story short, i thought i would mention it to a fellow rhode islander.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brandon n @ May 11 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]439909[/snapback]</div>
    Where did you get the OEM EV switch? Do you have the part number?

    Thanks
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bestmapman @ May 19 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]445875[/snapback]</div>
    I got it off of Sigma Automotive. They were fast and helpful with that and a few other things.
     
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    I'm planning to do the EV mod too. If you in MA/RI/NH/ME (New England Area), I can help on the installation. If anyone interested, email me at chinalfr"at"comcast.net.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brandon n @ May 11 2007, 10:53 AM) [snapback]439909[/snapback]</div>
    sorry I never replied to your inquiry. I haven't checked the site in a few months. TO answer your question, I never did the EV mod. It would have probably done nothing to help my mpg. I have, instead gotten much better at P&G and finding route to/from destinations that maximize my mpg. I may still consider the mod some time down the road. I would like to be able to accelerate a little more normally without the ICE having to assist.
    I did do the engine block heater, with great difficulty. I dropped the thing while trying to install it, and despite the tarp on my driveway, it got covered in gravel. After wiping it down and salvaging what grease I could from the tube, I re-greased the unit and finally managed to get it in. So with little grease, I am not sure how effectively it actually works.
    I also bought mud flaps, but ate the cost of having the dealership install them.
    Anyway, nice to hear from a local Prius owner. My wife has devised an exaggerated "Prius wave," so if you see a blue Prius with the passenger enthusiastically waving her entire forearm with a silly smile for a prolonged period, that's us.