Time problem

Syclone · Mar 26, 2007

Unless PriusChat is headquartered somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, Eastern Canada or the Caribbean, I think the system clock is off by one hour.

Tom6850 · Mar 26, 2007

Been this way since DST went into effect. Hoping it will straighten out when the old date for DST comes around.

rfred · Mar 26, 2007

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Been this way since DST went into effect. Hoping it will straighten out when the old date for DST comes around.
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And who's idea was the change in Daylight Savings Time...?

Definitely a concept that has outlived its usefulness.

jeneric · Mar 26, 2007

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Been this way since DST went into effect. Hoping it will straighten out when the old date for DST comes around.
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Yeah, then it will be 2 hours off.

jimmyrose · Mar 27, 2007

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And who's idea was the change in Daylight Savings Time...?

Definitely a concept that has outlived its usefulness.
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Not to me. I've got two kids on traveling soccer teams. Since we have a limited amount of fields to practice on and a lot of teams vying for time, this allows us to get in more practices before it gets too dark to see the ball coming at your face... :lol:
Selfish reason, I know. I'm okay with that.

Bill Merchant · Mar 27, 2007

Why don't you just practice earlier? Why should the whole country accommodate your kid's soccer practice? Are you somehow prohibited from an earlier practice?

DST only makes commercial sense, there's more daylight for SHOPPING! As if all the enclosed malls don't have electric lights... Otherwise, it's just a huge time and money suck.

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Not to me. I've got two kids on traveling soccer teams. Since we have a limited amount of fields to practice on and a lot of teams vying for time, this allows us to get in more practices before it gets too dark to see the ball coming at your face... :lol:
Selfish reason, I know. I'm okay with that. [/b]
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adam1991 · Mar 27, 2007

DST only makes commercial sense, there's more daylight for SHOPPING! As if all the enclosed malls don't have electric lights...[/b]
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Golfing, not shopping.

Tripod137 · Mar 27, 2007

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And who's idea was the change in Daylight Savings Time...?

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It was Ben Franklin. We can blame him for all of this soccer stuff!

daronspicher · Mar 27, 2007

For being a save the energy, save the planet bunch, ya'll don't seem to understand the reasoning behind DST and for moving it earlier/later in the year.

Here's a take on it from California:

One of the biggest reasons we change our clocks to Daylight Saving Time (DST) is that it saves energy. Energy use and the demand for electricity for lighting our homes is directly connected to when we go to bed and when we get up. Bedtime for most of us is late evening through the year. When we go to bed, we turn off the lights and TV.

In the average home, 25 percent of all the electricity we use is for lighting and small appliances, such as TVs, VCRs and stereos. A good percentage of energy consumed by lighting and appliances occurs in the evening when families are home. By moving the clock ahead one hour, we can cut the amount of electricity we consume each day.

Studies done in the 1970s by the U.S. Department of Transportation show that we trim the entire country's electricity usage by about one percent EACH DAY with Daylight Saving Time.

Daylight Saving Time "makes" the sun "set" one hour later and therefore reduces the period between sunset and bedtime by one hour. This means that less electricity would be used for lighting and appliances late in the day.

We also use less electricity because we are home fewer hours during the "longer" days of spring and summer. Most people plan outdoor activities in the extra daylight hours. When we are not at home, we don't turn on the appliances and lights. A poll done by the U.S. Department of Transportation indicated that Americans liked Daylight Saving Time because "there is more light in the evenings / can do more in the evenings."

While the amounts of energy saved per household are small...added up they can be very large.

In the winter, the afternoon Daylight Saving Time advantage is offset by the morning's need for more lighting. In spring and fall, the advantage is less than one hour. So, Daylight Saving Time saves energy for lighting in all seasons of the year except for the four darkest months of the year (November, December, January and February) when the afternoon advantage is offset by the need for lighting because of late sunrise.

A report was released in May 2001 by the California Energy Commission to see if creating an early DST or going to a year-round DST will help with the electricity problems the state faced in 2000-2001-2002. You can download an Acrobat PDF copy of the staff report, Effects of Daylight Saving Time on California Electricity Use, Publication # 400-01-13, (PDF file, pages, 5.2 megabytes).

The study concluded that both Winter Daylight Saving Time and Summer-season Double Daylight SavingTime (DDST) would probably save marginal amounts of electricity - around 3,400 megawatt-hours (MWh) a day in winter (one-half of one percent of winter electricity use - 0.5%) and around 1,500 MWh a day during the summer season (one-fifth of one percent of summer-season use - 0.20%). Winter DST would cut winter peak electricity use by around 1,100 megawatts on average, or 3.4 percent. Summer Double DST would cause a smaller (220 MW) and more uncertain drop in the peak, but it could still save hundreds of millions of dollars because it would shift electricity use to low demand (cheaper) morning hours and decrease electricity use during higher demand hours.

The model used in the Energy Commission's study is now being used by the U.S. Department of Energy in a larger national study of daylight saving time. It's unknown when that study will be completed. Dr. Kandel, of the Energy Commmission, has also published a short paper on the Elecetricity Savings From Early Daylight Saving Time beginning in March 2007. Her paper is available below.

In May 2001, the California state legislature sent a Senate Joint Resolution (SJRX2 1) to the White House and Congress asking that states be allowed to extend Daylight Saving Time year round. The resolution can be viewed at: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquer...author=karnette. Congress and the White House did not act on the request because of the world-changing events of September 11, 2001. No new legislation has been passed in California since then. [/b]
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http://www.energy.ca.gov/daylightsaving.html

I know there are other references that say we save overall amount of electricity, but we have a higher peak demand period which makes overall dollar cost savings minimal. As we have recently learned from Al Gore, saving dollars is not important... well heck.. saving actual electricity is not important either...

Why do we have DST?

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Syclone · Mar 27, 2007

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For being a save the energy, save the planet bunch, ya'll don't seem to understand the reasoning behind DST and for moving it earlier/later in the year.

Here's a take on it from California:

http://www.energy.ca.gov/daylightsaving.html

I know there are other references that say we save overall amount of electricity, but we have a higher peak demand period which makes overall dollar cost savings minimal. As we have recently learned from Al Gore, saving dollars is not important... well heck.. saving actual electricity is not important either...

Why do we have DST?

:lol:
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Chill out team! This is not about DST. The system time is the wrong way for a DST error. IF it was a DST error, the system time would be showing Chicago time (CST).

I'm suprised that somebody hasn't started a rant beginning: "If G-D had wanted Daylight savings time..."

ohm86 · Mar 28, 2007

Ermmm ...

Since no one has mentioned this yet ... you can manually change the time zone and DST ... I did it when the new Daylight Savings time took effect. In fact, in the system options screen, I had to manually change the "DST" setting from "Off" to "On". You can also choose what time zone you are in.

Initially, I only noticed that something was off when the estimated time of arrival for the nav system was different than my clock. (I also went in and changed the speed limits that the system uses to calculate the travel times ... from 25 to 30 mph for residential streets, to 70 mph for highways, etc)

See if that helps.

And, what, you've never heard of the Toyota manufacturing plant off the coast of Nova Scotia? 10,000 ft under the sea ...

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