PC moving to the right?

Schmika · Apr 17, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(naterprius @ Apr 17 2006, 06:12 PM) [snapback]241118[/snapback]</div>

I agree that as people age they tend to become more conservative, in terms of economic views. Typically, they become less enamored with entitlement.

However, it seems that society as a whole, as it progresses, tends to become more liberal. Maybe that's because more young people are born, new ideas come around, and eventually the others follow.

I found myself starting to lean to the right until the Bush administration came to power. I realized how anybody who isn't careful can fall into the "conservative" trap and forget to make a difference in the world. I realized that people degenerate naturally and that only through effort, commitment, and dedication can you make difference. I once had a right-wing nut job in a grocery store parking lot wearing a Bush T-shirt (and his two year old was as well) telling me that my liberal ideals were cute and quaint (he spotted my Prius) but that once I had children I would switch into protectionism of my family, trading in for the biggest SUV I could find, buying a gun to make sure my family was safe, and fighting to reduce taxes (otherwise hurting my kid's future) blah blah blah. "Once you have kids, then you'll see!" he said, condescendingly. He could not have been further from the truth. As a father, I now feel that I must set an example for my daughter of how to live, not as some sort of paranoid ultra-militaristic protectionist.

I have seen the light, and so too do the right-wingers. They will spout the greatness of GW at the recycling center after arriving in their Prii and I will just smile and nod.

Nate
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Older people may feel OTHERS should not get entitlements, but as people get older, it seems THEY want entitlements.

As far as the young being liberal with better ideas??? Nope, they just have the same old "feel good" ideas that have been PROVEN to not work before they were born.

Go Libertarian!!!!!

naterprius · Apr 17, 2006

Okay, when were hybrids proven to not work before my time? I'd like to know when that was.

How about smoke free buildings? When exactly were buildings smoke free and it was a horrible nightmare? I'd like to know.

Also, AIDS prevention. Could you tell me when AIDS prevention was that didn't work?

Nate

jayman · Apr 17, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Schmika @ Apr 16 2006, 08:01 PM) [snapback]240651[/snapback]</div>

Is it just me, or does it seem like there are more PC members speaking up on a more conservative tone?[/b]
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Karl:

What do you mean by "conservative?"

If you mean the "classic" Conservative like my parents are and the way I was raised, then I always was "Conservative" in that regard. For the NeoCon idiots who fail to understand what "Conservative" really means:

- Small government
- no debt
- that small government staying the hell out of my life
- let people live their lives as they see fit

Under the current spectrum I'd be classified as a Libertarian, and if I was still living in the United States I'd vote Libertarian.

It's fortunate that my new work contract has me so buried, so I have an excuse to now avoid PriusChat. Otherwise I'd just stay away to avoid the insane NeoCon nutjobs that seem to have escaped from whatever State looney bin they were locked up in.

Wildkow · Apr 18, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman @ Apr 17 2006, 07:08 PM) [snapback]241270[/snapback]</div>

Karl:

What do you mean by "conservative?"

If you mean the "classic" Conservative like my parents are and the way I was raised, then I always was "Conservative" in that regard. For the NeoCon idiots who fail to understand what "Conservative" really means:

- Small government
- no debt
- that small government staying the hell out of my life
- let people live their lives as they see fit

Under the current spectrum I'd be classified as a Libertarian, and if I was still living in the United States I'd vote Libertarian.

It's fortunate that my new work contract has me so buried, so I have an excuse to now avoid PriusChat. Otherwise I'd just stay away to avoid the insane NeoCon nutjobs that seem to have escaped from whatever State looney bin they were locked up in.
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Simple solution don't read FHOP! :mellow:

Wildkow

Wildkow · Apr 18, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(fuelsipper @ Apr 16 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]240661[/snapback]</div>

sorry, but like the President and the rest of the right wingers you are living in a dream world.

as far as FHOP, I have better things to do most of the time as I suspect most other(insert your BLEEP here) do also...
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My dream world? Hmmmmmm....

1) Republican Executive
2) Republican Controlled Congress
3) Mostly Conservative Judicary

Hey! I'm not dreaming!!! :lol: BaHaHaHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Wildkow

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imntacrook @ Apr 17 2006, 06:53 AM) [snapback]240858[/snapback]</div>

The Clinton years were great but that had more to do with Reagan than Clinton - now we're trying to clean up Clintons omissions.

The left is always more vocal until they see they're outnumbered 10 to 1 by the common folks.
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Yeah his years weren't so bad unless you got in Bill or Hill's way http://www.akdart.com/body-c.html

Wildkow

Wildkow · Apr 18, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 17 2006, 09:46 AM) [snapback]240940[/snapback]</div>

You know, I've always gotten a kick out of reading just how fanatical some of the Bush haters on PC are. It's like they don't sleep at night, curse him under their breath everytime they stub their toe or something. They are just soooo consumed by hating him... This is why I couldn't be President, for I'd make full use of a Gestapo-like mechanism to effectively silence such individuals who are sooo irrational, they are more harmful to this country than the terrorists.

I have to say though, there are only about 1 or 2 people here that actually hate Bush for real, rational, reasons, the rest: they're just here for the Bush bashing sausage/taco party..... :lol:
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Nailed it again Squid U Da Man! I have been noticably impressed by the fact that the Far Right has learned it's lesson about manufacturing evidence for baseless accusations. Case in point the CBS and the National Guard Papers, now they just make the baseless accusations and keep repeating the same thing over and over and over. Kinda like this guy. . .

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. - Joesph Goeebles

Wildkow

p.s. To repeat what others have said, requires education; to challenge it, requires brains.
Mary Pettibone Poole

Mystery Squid · Apr 18, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Apr 18 2006, 12:01 AM) [snapback]241327[/snapback]</div>

Simple solution don't read FHOP! :mellow:

Wildkow
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It's a great example of how THEY handle things, squirt the sauce of rationality on them, and they BOLT.

ml86 · Apr 18, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Schmika @ Apr 16 2006, 08:01 PM) [snapback]240651[/snapback]</div>

Is it just me, or does it seem like there are more PC members speaking up on a more conservative tone?

Some of the lone voices in the wilderness are starting to sound like harmony.

Keep it up citizens.
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It's just you.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 17 2006, 11:46 AM) [snapback]240940[/snapback]</div>

You know, I've always gotten a kick out of reading just how fanatical some of the Bush haters on PC are. It's like they don't sleep at night, curse him under their breath everytime they stub their toe or something. They are just soooo consumed by hating him... This is why I couldn't be President, for I'd make full use of a Gestapo-like mechanism to effectively silence such individuals who are sooo irrational, they are more harmful to this country than the terrorists.

I have to say though, there are only about 1 or 2 people here that actually hate Bush for real, rational, reasons, the rest: they're just here for the Bush bashing sausage/taco party..... :lol:
No BS dude, I almost didn't post the entire weekend... UNTIL I came across your post... You know that stuff just fires me on don't you?
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I don't just hate Bush. It goes much deeper than that.

naterprius · Apr 18, 2006

I don't actually spend a lot of time hating Bush. It's not that I hate him really; it's just that he's such an idiot, it's more like embarrasment when I see him open his mouth. What I can't stand is people whose eyes get all glazed over and become physically aroused whenever they hear his name mentioned. It creeps me out. What really creeps me out is if the bulge in their pants becomes visible and they start to salivate lustfully whenever Fox News is on TV. I seriously have to leave the room.

Nate

Tyrin · Apr 2, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(naterprius @ Apr 17 2006, 03:21 PM) [snapback]241016[/snapback]</div>

What Right-Wingers don't realize is that they all come around to the voice of reason eventually. The trick for the rest of us is to prevent them from doing too much damage in the mean time.

Some examples:
-Recycling. Pretty much mainstream nowadays.
-Emissions. Who really wants to go back to the way it was?
-Relaxation of marijuana laws. (Need I say more?)
-Hybrid cars (we were right all along).
-Drunk Driving laws

It seems that stubborn "conservatives" tend to let go of their extremist views over time. They become more liberal, but they deny it. They probably don't even realize it.

Case in point, "I drive a Prius, I recycle, but I'm a conservative!"

It's just like technology. Once it's the norm, it's not technology anymore.

Nate
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You could have stretched this out much farther, Nate. "Conservative", literally, means to conserve things the way they are, to be resistant to change. Here's some more examples of views that were once simply "conservative", and are now unacceptable by most:

-Pro-tobacco
-Racism/Slavery/Segregation
-Women as obedient servants, no voting/working/etc.

Here's some current issues that we can hope are headed the same direction in the long term:

-Homophobia
-Religious intolerance
-Aggressive gun rights (handguns, etc.)

Of course, there are examples of society sliding backwards, but hopefully these will be mere blips on the radar!

Beryl Octet · Apr 2, 2007

PC More conservative? No, I was just driving by with this turned up really loud, and you didn't get the sarcasm:

I used to lead a quiet life
In fact it was a bare existence
I passed out on many floors
I don't do that any more

Hello my friends
Is everybody happy?
Hey look me over
Lend me an ear
I'm a conservative

I like the small black marks on my hands
I'm a conservative
I like the crazy girls that I screw
Hey I know them all well

And when I run out of bread I laugh
All the way to the bank
Sometimes I pause for a drink
Conservatism ain't no easy job

I smile in the mornings
I live without a care
Nothing is denied me
And nothing ever hurts

I got bored so I'm making my millions
When you're conservative you get a better break
You're always on the right side
When you're conservative

You walk with pride
Pride is on your side
Pride pride pride
Is on our side
Oh boy
Pride is on our side

I like my beer
I like my bread
I love my girl
I love my head

I'm in the clear man
I'm in the dear
Because I'm a conservative
I'm a conservative
I really am
Oh yes l am

And it would mean so much to me
If you would only be like me
Yes it could mean so much to me

Hey look me over
Lend me an ear
I'm a conservative

-- Iggy Pop

dbermanmd · Apr 3, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imntacrook @ Apr 17 2006, 10:53 AM) [snapback]240858[/snapback]</div>

The Clinton years were great but that had more to do with Reagan than Clinton - now we're trying to clean up Clintons omissions.

The left is always more vocal until they see they're outnumbered 10 to 1 by the common folks.
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i believe you mis-spelled omissions --- e for the o is more accurate - and i do believe they steam cleaned the carpet in the oval office after he left, and the cigar box was incinerated.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(naterprius @ Apr 18 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]241549[/snapback]</div>

I don't actually spend a lot of time hating Bush. It's not that I hate him really; it's just that he's such an idiot, it's more like embarrasment when I see him open his mouth. What I can't stand is people whose eyes get all glazed over and become physically aroused whenever they hear his name mentioned. It creeps me out. What really creeps me out is if the bulge in their pants becomes visible and they start to salivate lustfully whenever Fox News is on TV. I seriously have to leave the room.

Nate
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it sounds like you were describing bill clinton there for a minute and 18 year old female interns

rangermike · Apr 13, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Schmika @ Apr 16 2006, 08:01 PM) [snapback]240651[/snapback]</div>

Is it just me, or does it seem like there are more PC members speaking up on a more conservative tone?

Some of the lone voices in the wilderness are starting to sound like harmony.

Keep it up citizens.
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