Where are Rev. Sharpton & Rev. Jackson?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigmahma @ May 19 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]445745[/snapback]</div>

You're right. It sure would be much better for us if white men ran the government and all of the big corporations, wouldn't it!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigmahma @ May 19 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]445745[/snapback]</div>

Damn right! Name a single white male member of congress - I can't think of any! White male CEOs? Will never happen. Why isn't there even one white male member of the Supreme Court? And when was the last time the President of the U.S. was a white male? The Forbes list of 400 wealthiest Americans? You can count the white males on one hand.

 

Too bad bigmahma didn't know about this scholarship; which, I'm embarrassed to say, was started at a school in Rhode Island. From the CNN story (these bozos get on the national news, as if RI didn't have enough problems with its image):

Of course, bigmahma would still have to meet the school's rigid entrance requirements, which I believe includes getting a combined SAT score of 300 and being able to draw a picture of a pirate from a matchbook cover.
As if the College Republicans at Roger Williams U. haven't done enough to shame the smallest state in the US, their current leader managed to get on Fox "News" to complain that he was "forced" to watch "An Inconvenient Truth" for one of his courses. Gee, I'm glad that I never had to listen to anything that I disagreed with when I was in college!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigmahma @ May 19 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]445745[/snapback]</div>

Okay. I am now convinced that Big Mahma is actually a liberal, posting in the persona of a racist neo-con to make racist neo-cons look stupid. And succeeding splendidly!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ May 19 2007, 11:10 AM) [snapback]445657[/snapback]</div>

I can understand how being a Jew might have some individuals disliking you because of their beliefs about Jews. I personally want to see marijuana legalized and taxed. I read somewhere that huge numbers of people are locked up for just possession of weed. What a waste of money and loss of freedom. I say if a guy or girl wants to smoke reefer in the comfort of his/her own home and is not driving a motor vehicle why the hell not??

I grew up in the 60's with the hippies, Nam, and all the drugs. I never knew anyone who died from using weed, but a ton of my graduating class ended up dead, crippled, or mentally deranged because of the BS Vietnam "conflict". Our govt. is hell bent on the war against drugs, but not the war in Iraq. We sure have our priorities in order!

 

[attachmentid=8169]<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(larkinmj @ May 19 2007, 03:05 PM) [snapback]445752[/snapback]</div>

Why are you bent because white students could get $250 to say how proud they are of being white? Every other group is encouraged to be proud of their race/heritage. I really don't understand how you could be shamed by that unless you are not a white person. Here's a picture that someone gave me years ago. I think she is beautiful.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Walker1 @ May 19 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]445853[/snapback]</div>

Yes, she looks very nice...for a white supremacist.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigmahma @ May 19 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]445924[/snapback]</div>

Are you being on the level now BigMahma- was daniel right? If so, you put on a performance worthy of Stephen Colbert!

 

"I agree 100%!!! We would be so much better off if we could stop seeing race. Stop denying jobs and promotions to people based on their race. Stop letting criminals get off because they are white and rich. Stop ghettoizing kids into bad schools because of their race. Stop discriminating in housing. Stop claiming, as the racists do, that Black people are inherently criminal."

Daniel, your reply to my comment about not seeing race shows that you look for racial problems. In your view (it seems to me) all whites are prejudiced and cheat minorities on a daily basis. You will always find what you look to find, even if it is not really there.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigmahma @ May 19 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]445745[/snapback]</div>

I was being facitious (sp?). Black leaders teach black people to be victims by holding on to something that was done a long time ago (slavery). I did not own any slaves, so why should my tax dollars go to make up for something that I did not do? While slavery was indeed a horrid thing, it was actually a blessing to black people today. A vast majority of black people in America today would not be alive if not for slavery and the bravery of their ancestors to stick it out and survive. I'm sure that the mortality rate in the jungles of Africa is extremely higher than it is here.

Indians (or Native Americans if you must). We lost. Let it go and move on. Buy land (yes you can do that now) and move on. Please stop being offended by the Redskins (my team since birth), the Indians, and the Braves. Everyone should learn as a child that the easiest way to not be offended is to choose not to be. Stop looking in every nook and cranny for government money and move on.

If you are offended by either of these paragraphs, please choose not to be.

As far as the "white scholarship", please. Some students put that together to make a point. $250. Please.

Back to the Indian team names. I heard Rush Limbaugh talk about (and read the actual story he got it from) a school made mostly minorities that wanted to teach the white man how it felt. So they named their team "The Fighting Whities" complete with available t-shirt. White people thought it was extremely funny and started sending money to purchase the t-shirt.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(larkinmj @ May 19 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]445895[/snapback]</div>

Who is the guy in the picture and what is he running for? If a natl. election what is his platfrom?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roryjr @ May 20 2007, 01:37 AM) [snapback]446007[/snapback]</div>

One thing that really pisses me off is a help wanted ad that states "minorities are encouraged to apply". To me that means white men need not apply. That is a perfect example of why whites are angry over race issues. If a person can't get a shot for a job because he is white it breeds anger and contempt for our sick govt. and its antiquated affirmative action policies.

Here in FL there are many schools in black cities where the district can't even get black teachers to go there and work. No teacher wants to put up with the ghetto mentality and abuse. Most all teachers agree that social skills training and positive communication skills begins at an early age and must be taught by the parent(s) or guardian. By the time these kids get into elementary school they are all but impossible to control.

Last school year I took an assignment in an elem. ed. school. I was an inclusion teacher, but the majority of my time was spent in the ISS-(in School Suspension) dept. baby sitting students who had little regard for learning and about a zero understanding of how to act around people outside of their own homes.

I am very observant person and read alot. Most of the problem kids were males. Many of them are labeled "EH" which means emotionally handicapped. There is a special school where the worst of them are sent. They are considered "SEH" severely emotionally handicapped. There were on an average day 5-15 boys in ISS- about 11 black and 4 white. Only on a rare occasion did a female student visit ISS and I don't remember any with the "EH" label. However, aside from the extreme negative behavior problems there were another 75 kids who are labeled "ESE". It means exceptional student education. Most of them have learning disabilities usually in the reading comprehension area.

The point here is a teacher can't spend 1/3 of his/her teaching time trying to stop class disruptions. It cheats the majority of students who are in school to learn. So the teacher called for me or my co-worker in ISS-(He was a very nice black man) to remove the disruptors from the classroom. This was a daily fiasco and in 2 weeks I knew most all of the EH boys by 1st names. Both my co-worker Eddie and I fully agreed that the EH kids needed support from home and they were headed for serious trouble and prison if they didn't learn to get along with people.

Hence, this brings us to the 2 animals who raped and brutally butchered the people in the original post. It was very apparent when I was physically restraining an 11 year old boy for up to 30 minutes on a mat that the anger and extreme bizarre behavior would carry over to adulthood if they lived to be that old. None of them had a clue as to what respect and obeying rules/laws meant. They simply didn't care.

Without rambling on much more I also observed the following: Having money had little to do with behavior. Some very well off white students were just as bad as the black boys who didn't come from money. I remember 1 white boy cussing and threatening his father while he was walking th kid into school. I don't know how parents can put up with the foulness their offspring give them. Anyway, district can't get teachers to work in schools where behavior is none existent and principals offer no staff support. The young thugs get passed to get rid of the problem until they quit school or end up in jail. The rest is what we read about in the press when it chooses to make a crime sensational.

All teachers agree on one thing; the kids growing up today are far more dangerous than they were 10 years ago. I have known many teachers who left teaching because of threats, assaults, and high stress. That is why I have no desire to teach in a public school of that nature with a group that will never be teachable. I did try for 2 years and failed miserably. My intentions were sincere and I really believe in the concept that ALL students must succeed in life or we, as a society will pay to keep them locked up in their cages forever.

All the race issues and preferential job treatment needs to stop now. The fire is just burning more every day.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roryjr @ May 19 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]446007[/snapback]</div>

You just don't get it, do you? No, not all Whites are prejudiced. But the infrastructure that controls hiring and promotions has a deep bias against people of color. And most adults raised in a racist society such as ours experience, at the very least, some slight negative emotions when they encounter people of a different race.

I'll give myself as an example: I know in my brain that there is no difference in the feelings and capabilities of people of different races. But when I was about to be put into an exercise room alone with a large Black man, I felt some fear. I'd have said I am not a racist. Yet those feelings were inside me. (He turned out to be a very nice person and we had a very interesting conversation.)

If this had been a job interview and there was a White applicant as well, I'd have had to fight very hard not to feel that hiring the Black man would be risky.

When White people do nearly all the hiring, Black people get the short shrift, regardless of abilities. And this is today, 2007, in America.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roryjr @ May 19 2007, 10:56 PM) [snapback]446012[/snapback]</div>

Leaving aside your preposterous defense of slavery, and even leaving aside the barbaric cruelty of it, it constituted a theft of labor without pay. There are back wages due to the descendents of slaves. Had the slaves been paid, or even given land after emancipation, many of them would have invested the money or worked the land, passed it on to their descendents, and the racial imbalance of wealth today would not exist. There would be individual imbalance, because there always is in a capitalist society. But there would not be racial imbalance.

Not only does white society today continue to hold onto property stolen in the past, but it continues, today, to deny quality education and equal opportunity in hiring and promotion, to the descendents of slaves.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Walker1 @ May 20 2007, 07:35 AM) [snapback]446103[/snapback]</div>

It may mean that to you. But if that's what it means to you, then you are reading it with a chip on your shoulder against the very idea of equal opportunity. In many companies, minorities will not be hired for other than menial jobs, or a few token posts. "Minorities encouraged to apply" means that minorities will be considered on their merits, rather than rejected for the color of their skin.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roryjr @ May 20 2007, 01:56 AM) [snapback]446012[/snapback]</div>

Slavery was a blessing? Gee, I never thought about it that way. Perhaps instead of paying reparations to the descendents of slaves, we should make THEM pay money to US!

Not everyone in Africa lives in the jungle. You should learn something about cultures other than your own.

Suppose there was a ball team called the "New York Jews", with a mascot having a stereotypical large nose. Or maybe the "San Francisco Coolies"; its mascot being a "chinaman" with a big hat. Native Americans have been marginalized so long in this country that offensive racial stereotypes are deemed to be acceptable in their case.

Yes, of course they were making a point. A very stupid one.

I'm not surprised white people thought it was funny; they obviously did not get the point (especially if they heard about it from Rush Limbaugh). The school may have had good intentions, but you're not going to educate someone who is unenlightened about injustice by giving him a T-shirt with a funny slogan on it.

 

Here's a little story that was local here. It def. didn't get much publicity at all. Is this a hate crime?

http://www.channel3000.com/news/11870888/detail.html

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BORNGEARHEAD @ May 20 2007, 04:14 PM) [snapback]446258[/snapback]</div>

Yes, it is. Your point?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bigmahma @ May 20 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]446335[/snapback]</div>

Your wish is my command.

Now, sit down, breathe slowly, and try to learn this:

1. White people beating up black people is WRONG.
1A. Just because #1 is wrong doesn't mean black people beating up white people is RIGHT.

2. Black people beating up white people is WRONG.
2A. Statement #2 does NOT contradict statement #1.

3. Black people beating up black people is WRONG.
3A. The fact of statement #3 does not contradict statements #1 or #2.

4. White people beating up white people is WRONG.
4A. Statement #4 does NOT contradict statements #1, #2, or #3.

Any questions?