Ron Paul for President?

I was wondering if You prius owners have heard of a candidate called Ron Paul. If not take a quick tour of Youtube and search for "Ron Paul." . Im 20, and ive always thought there would not be a president in my age that i would like to vote for. I can always see the mask that these politicians wear. Ron Paul Seems like an actual human person looking to make an actual difference without gimmicks or stupid promises. If you guys know about him let me know what you think.

From what i understand the main streem media is trying to keep the voice of this guy down. From what ive been reading there was were people trying to ban him for the GOP presidential debate until many people came to help him.

 

Thanks for moving it for me

 

I probably thought i would not vote for a president ever. Since i was in high school and started learning about "history" i was completely baffled, shocked, and scared that people actually act the way they do (like droping a bomb on a country), it absolutely terrified me, and the worst thing is my teachers justified it without question and the students didnt have my same reaction. I have always been different like that, i tend to see things for what they are or at least try to, not what people through history like to claim them to be.
im 20, and i try to see things as clearly as possibly. I dont like posting to often about my personal views in subjects like this because i feel that no one truly understands what im trying to convey, or i think people think im "extreme", and i can never put what i truly mean in words and concepts.

With that said, when i heard about Ron Paul and then heard him speak on some you tube vids "You tube Ron Paul", i was stunned to hear some one actually talking about things that actualy matter. What i mean by that is things like abortion rights, gay rights and what ever rights just seem to push the real problems aside or act as like a masking for the real problems.
(real problems? what do you mean andre? What are real problems to you then?)

The fact that our Constitution is being purposely degraded and our freedoms are being taken away from us. The fact that You will vote for the guy who does or does not support abortion, but dont think of the guy who will or will not stop the killing of innocent people in the world by numerous dictators instead of just the ones that we point out in timely manners like Iraq and Iran (as soon as they are a "terrorist threat" THEN is the time to start blaming them of being dictators and such) even though WE ALL KNOW, Africa has dictators that had 100,000's slaughtered in just recent years. In 1993 we gave chine the most-favored-nation status, i mean common? Is the whole world asleep?

People are just like a heard of sheep, except worse. Sheep have a dog to keep them in line, people have other people. All you have to do is not be in the Norm, not conform, Or say something that makes people uncomfortable and they will ridicule , taunt, humiliate and laugh at you instead of getting to the heart of the situation or even trying to understand why you / some one else feels the way they do about something.

if you just look at
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*abortion
*tolerance or --ideally-- support of same sex partnership rights
*non-discrimination laws supporting the LGBTI folks at work and in other aspects of public and private life.
"

then how will you notice
* Internet and phone tapping
* Cameras being integrated on every stop light and street corner that are linked to agencies that can run facial scans and recognitions billions of times per second.
* The fact that in a few years they will have the power to scan every packet of information on the interet and track every thing you type, probably part of some sort of "national security act" to prevent "terrorism".
* America spending 428 billion on war. ( just think, 428 billion. Before the war we had "projects" that needed to be developed, homelessness , 2000 kids going missing each year, gangs, school programs being cut. Can you imagine what 428 billion could do for not just the us but the world???)
* How about the fact that we dont own our own land anymore, our land is not truly private
* Our constitution being ripped to threads in the name of "anti-terrorism".

In all honesty, i dont think Ron Paul will win. If he did it would be a new wolrd i can bet on that, but i can bet he would be assassinated. it just seems to be the trend for most of Honest, Human presidents, but it would be nice to have people realize thet there are people like him out there.

I also don't think voting does much of anything beyond the local level. In 2001 the majority of americans voted for Al gore, but it doesn't matter what the Americans voted for, it matters what the electoral college votes for. I prompted my high school teacher with this question about this issue before my last year - "If the electoral college picks the president, then what is the point of voting for one?", i did not get a good response. Does anyone else realize this?

wikipidia / Electoral college - "Although ballots list the names of the presidential candidates, voters within the 50 states and the District of Columbia are actually choosing Electors from their state when they vote for President and Vice President. These Presidential Electors in turn cast the official (electoral) votes for those two offices. Although the nationwide popular vote is calculated by official and media organizations, it does not determine the winner of the election."

*This is one of those things that i just dont get. why not just have the people vote for the president?

WIKIPEDIA.ORG / Electoral votes / Main article: <strike>Faithless elector</strike>

"A faithless elector is one who casts an electoral vote for someone other than whom they have pledged to elect. On 158 occasions, electors have not cast their votes for president or vice president to whom they were pledged. Of those, 71 votes were changed because the original candidate died before the elector was able to cast a vote. Two votes were not cast at all when electors chose to abstain from casting their electoral vote for any candidate. The remaining 85 were changed by the elector's personal interest or perhaps by accident. Usually, the faithless electors act alone. An exception was in 1836 when 23 Virginia electors changed their vote together. In that year, Martin Van Buren's Vice Presidential running mate, Richard Johnson, did not receive the minimum votes to become the Vice President but ultimately won the office on the first ballot by the United States Senate in 1837.

There are laws to punish faithless electors in 24 states. While no faithless elector has ever been punished...."

 

Sorry pinto girl. I didnt mean to be like that. and i didnt mean to come off like that either.

I do see how there are many different concerns that govern our decisions on voting and what not. Desicions like abortion are hard and its a very personal thing. But a decision on world hunger / or world privacy / or world domination seems more of a pressing situation and are topics that everyone seems to have a general consensus for. For example how many people will be effected by an abortion VS how many people will be affected by bomb dropping on them? How many "gay people" will have there rights taken away vs How many people have already had there rights taken away, i mean everyone in America has had there rights taken away since 9/11 but no one seems to care or notice. If you think about it, those rights are "gay people's" rights too are they not? What im trying to get at is we should focus on problems that effect us as a WHOLE first. Because the whole will always effect the few as well.

Pinto girl i never said that your concerns are "less important" than mine. Dont be so offended im just stating my opinion. I was trying to point out that the certain points you had, determining who should be president of our country dont even reflect or do not relate to the vast majority of the citizens of this country.

I just think we should focus on things as a WHOLE. A country devided cannot stand, and it seems that we keep deviding and compartmentalizing things so much that we are not going to see the bigger picture. Our country has so many view points and words for every type of person and what they believe in, its just ridiculous i think. In a much grander scale i would like to apply this viewpoint as worldwide.

I dont know nor do i want to know the political terms. I can tell if i like a person by hearing / seeing / there actions. Labeling is just ignorant and a waste of time (IMH0).

Because i point out issues that im concerned with that deal with topics you may be unfamiliar with or unconcerned with does not make me paranoid. I point out things that the average person does not know but effects EVERYONE one a large scale.

There are simple concrete things that i believe we as a human population should work on. Food / Water / Shelter / Freedom / Respect/ . Everything else is just a blur, Does it not seem a waste of your time, or our time doing what we do everyday? what is different about today than 1,000 years ago? I stated Very obvious faults in our current system but honestly it was just to reach a wider audience, people who may be concerned with there privacy or being truly free.

My issue is that i cannot operate on a scale where im trying to think about problems that reside in MUCH bigger problems. I think the fact that the situation the world is in, with countries going with out food and water, governments bombing other countries because of the actions of A few. Weapons being bought and sold from each side. Our media playing these events out like they should be part of everyday lives.

The things i mentioned are slight concerns of mine because i see there implementations as having a much wider negative affect than other topics discussed. How ever, my concerns that i listed can be obviously dwarfed by the concerns just mentioned in the paragraph above.

A friend of mine once said that this all has to end before there will ever be a new beggining. Meaning the wolrd situation must get very bad before people wake up and realize what is actualy going on.
Yes it may sound paranoid, or scary, or dark, but we are already living in scary, paranoid and dark times, all you have to do is turn on a tv or look at a newspaper.

Its hard for me to discuss certain topics because my views are shared by a very small percentage.

When i see people like ron paul actualy going for presidency its exciting to me, like a glimmer of hope or something . I dont know a thing about politics, and i dont realy want to either, but i do know that ron paul seems much different than most or every canidate that is running.

Im sorry if i affend anyone btw

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I geuss some one who does not conform to the norm would come across as a lunatic right? Its interesting that you dont state why he came across as a lunatic, i would really like to understand your viewpoint this.