How hot do YOU think Vegas will be in 50 years?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Jun 21 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]465852[/snapback]</div>

or not...
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financi...8db11f4&p=4

 

I'd guess Vegas and San Fran will both be in the mid 500 degree range with that knee deep fire and brimstone from the sky still laying in the streets.

Probably this will be sooner than 50 years from now though..

:lol:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Jun 21 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]465852[/snapback]</div>

dont think it matters much with air conditioning. Could be 200F, just need to take a bus ride, tramp ride or taxi instead of walking. Plus, its already too hot in Vegas during the summer. I've been there where it got to 130 during the hottest part of the day. Just go out at night where its a cool 95-100F

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Jun 21 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]465852[/snapback]</div>

Burritos, you think temperatures will rise that much in your lifetime? Do you go to bed listening to Al Gore each evening?

 

I hope I'm not around to see those temps. It's supposed to be 113 here in AZ today, the UV index is 10+ Extreme & I have to go work outside at 2:00pm!!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Jun 21 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]465921[/snapback]</div>

A lot of Europeans don't have air conditioning. The new building have it but lots of older building don't. I've been to many a French, Germany, Italian, Czech hotel that doesn't have air conditioning. They close the shutters during the day and open the windows at night. It helps that they have one to two foot thick stone walls so the building has lots of thermal mass. It may be 95 degrees outside but a comfortable 80 degrees inside.

 

This post fails to understand the meaning of global warming. The actual temperatures will not rise very noticeably in any given location over a human lifetime. What happens with GW is that climate patters are disturbed, variability increases, and rainfall distribution changes. All of these things are disastrous for our human economy. Periodic crop failures due to changing rainfall patterns; severe storms; rising sea levels as polar ice caps and glaciers melt; greater extremes of everything: too much rain in one place and not enough in another, greater extremes, rather than much higher averages, of temperature, both colder and hotter.

The biggest change in places like Las Vegas will be rising humidity resulting from the watering of lawns, and political turmoil resulting from the fighting over water rights as desert communities grow. Such communities attract retirees, who can spend a lifetime of savings on political clout. Las Vegas will be one of the principal advocates of war with Canada, as water becomes more valuable than petroleum. Poorer communities will lose the rights to water in their own regions. Municipal and agricultural consumers of water will struggle and as a result, food production will decrease and cost will rise.

But if you look outside at your thermometer, the difference on most days won't be that great, though the hottest days will be hotter, and the coldest will be colder, by a few degrees.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Jun 21 2007, 02:40 PM) [snapback]465891[/snapback]</div>

Whereas the atheists eat up the idea we'll all be holding hands, sharing, getting along, and beaming up and down from the star ship Enterprise some day

Desert temps in 50 years? It won't matter. Power costs (from peak oil) will likely be so extreme that sending AC, building materials, food, etc. out to extreme temp places will be impractical. It'll all become a ghost town ... back to tumbleweeds, like it was 90 years ago.

Our home in Montana: 75 degree winters. I'm looking forward to water skiing the Flathead lake in January !

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ Jun 22 2007, 10:15 AM) [snapback]466366[/snapback]</div>

I kinda take the opposite view on this one, Daniel. Vegas will be screwed beyond belief because those old bastards won't be able to enforce a damn (or should it be dam?) thing. Colorado, for example will just shut off the water to Utah if things get really tight. The feds would have to 1, side with vegas, and 2 spend billions of dollars safeguarding the water/snow. Vegas will just wither and die... probably more slowly than some of us would like, but unless warmer temps mean stronger more frequent monsoons then Vegas' days seem numbered.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ 2007 June 22 9:15 AM) [snapback]466366[/snapback]</div>

I fear the resource wars have only begun. Now oil, next water, or maybe food. It's a sad commentary on humanity that we can't learn to use the right tool - conservation - instead of reaching for a bigger hammer.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Jun 21 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]465852[/snapback]</div>

Yeah until the active volcano Mt. Ranier erupts.

 

Not sure how hot it'll be out there in the desert, but here in the Midwest things seem to have changed quite a bit since I was a kid in the '80s. Although technically the last five years or so have been the hottest on record, I remember the summers in the '80s being much hotter than they are today and reaching 100 degrees at least a couple times a summer. Now, I think we hit 100+ back one time back in 2005 but that was about it.

Winters here used to be a lot snowier, too, but our snowfall has been way low comparitively. As for the cold temps, yeah, we've had cold snaps here and there the last couple of years, (the one this year was pretty brutal here in Chicago with several days well below zero). Other than that, winters have been pretty mild so I think that has more to do with higher average temps than the heat in the summertime.

 

I'll probably still be lost in some older dark casino, wondering, "where am I, and how do I get to where I want to go...?" (not to mention, what time it is).

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The very existence of our commercially-oriented society --and as a consequence, our individual wellbeing-- hinges on the plentiful availabilty of natural resources, and (as importantly their exploitation).

You'd better believe that we'll be ultimately willing to fight to the death to secure whatever we need to continue on in this fashion.

Seems to be the easiest choice...

...or is it, really...?