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I don't acknowledge that that roid abuser beat Hammerin' Hank.

I do not acknowledge it.

I do not.

 

My Barry Bonds story:

Back when I worked for Yahoo!, our softball team had a game against arch-rivals Excite. Excite hired Barry Bonds as a ringer. The pitcher, a then 25-year-old woman, struck him out. Booya!

 

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Kinda like OJ, Bonds, "not enough evidence", "juiced" that one out of the park. Not a record in my book!

 

I am conflicted too. He is a gifted player. Hitting a baseball is about so much more than power. But you don't see little guys hit 70+ HRs a year.

Baseball was my favorite game to follow, watch, and play when I was a kid. After MLB's strike in 1994, I went on strike and refused to watch it anymore. Until the HR battle between McGwire and Sosa. I was fixated on every game as McGwire approached and passed 61. I still have images in my mind of the line drive that would be #62 barely making it over the left field fence and McGwire's victorious trot around the bases. And I was like a kid again.

I had no interest in last night's game.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Aug 8 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]492236[/snapback]</div>

First Baroids Bonds: The nightmare is over.

I was praying for a career ending injury for years - to no avail. I did not watch the game, I have not watched one of his games since he left Pittsburgh - or since he started juicing. It is a GREAT SHAME and an INDICTMENT on our society that we stood pat while what I consider the greatest sports record was broken by a cheater. I cannot understand how people dont call him what he is, a cheater. His athleticism? Sure, Ben Johnson was a great athlete too - what he [baroids] did statistically during the tail end of his career has NEVER been accomplished - is that athleticism or is that cheating - you celebrate that? :lol: It is my hope of hope that:

1. Mr. Bonds is indicted by the Feds - that Mr. Anderson starts to talk when jail time becomes too much for him (I wonder how much Baroids is paying him?) - that the truth comes out.
2. He is NOT elected to the HOF
3. He has an asterisk beside his name forever.
4. He offers a formal apology to baseball fans and becomes a poster child for kids not to juice.


Second, OJ Simpson:
1. I wonder how you feel about him my good doctor.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Aug 8 2007, 10:19 AM) [snapback]492345[/snapback]</div>

I agree with what you are saying. I would, if i could, make Hank Aaron the official HR record holder while acknowledging that steroids do make superior athletes potentially superhuman.

And I hope A Rod cracks his record wide open. I cant wait to hear and see Baroids congratulate him on that record breaker.

 

Mark McGwire: Lives just a couple miles down the road from us & he keeps a low profile. He was a nice guy who gave great interviews, and he knew when do disappear. He too, will likely never be a hall of fame-er. Rightly so IMO.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gadgetdad @ Aug 7 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]492268[/snapback]</div>

What does OJ have to do with this. Would you be making this statement if Barry Bonds was a white man?

 

Thinking about some of the old timers. Had they been available; I imagine that Babe Ruth would have been the first in line for his Roid enhancement. I don't think today's players are that much different. They just have different opportunities both good and bad.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dave @ Aug 8 2007, 10:56 AM) [snapback]492379[/snapback]</div>

i believe the reference was made towards available evidence. there is no evidence that baroids took steroids - although he is the first human being ever to hit the way he hit from ages 35-40 years - something pretty fishy there.

OJ - a jury of his peers found him innocent of murder although a similar jury of his peers found him guilty in the civil proceedings of the same crime - again most humans believe he did it - although there is no direct evidence he did it.

nothing racial - both guilty as charged - would be the same if they were white, black, brown or green.

 

On a side note, did anybody notice the unbelieveable crap that went on in the stands? Anybody notice the guy in the orabge jacket? I'm hoping that somebody prosecutes him for assault, because that was simply unacceptable behavior.

 

I can't say whether BB was on steroids or not, but his physique hasn't changed to my eye now that the roid controversy has been daylighted. The guy is huge. I have to wonder how his 'been walked' record is compared to others, since most pitchers won't give him a chance and just throw wild pitches to walk him. He has made his record hitting pitches most others would just let go by.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Aug 8 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]492391[/snapback]</div>

First of all, the term "Guilty" applies only to criminal actions, not civil litigation. One is found "Liable" when he or she is successfully sued for damages.

Secondly, the standard of proof in a civil trial, preponderance of the evidence, is way lower than the proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard which must be overcome before someone is convicted of a crime.

Lastly, if you want to use a non racially charged example of someone who was acquitted of murder in the criminal trial but was subsequently found liable for wrongful death just used Robert Blake.

 

Innocent until proven guilty, unless found guilty by the public court.


That is one of the things wrong with this society today. And while the evidence is quite compelling as to Mister Bonds having indulged in steroids, nothing has of yet been proven.

It's something. We will all hang him, when he is just guilty of being a sour puss when it comes to dealing with the media, and some fans.

Anyway, in a few years Arod will come along and break it, baring any career ending injury, and hopefully that will be that.