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Rough idle plus 'lumpy' start stop?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by abtim, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. abtim

    abtim New Member

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    I have a 06 Prius which the idle seems quite rough and lumpy. The main time I notice it is when the petrol engine comes in and out as the car shakes a little as if the engine doesn't quite turn off properly. When it comes on it then thumps in. The dealer says it is within limits blah blah.... but it just doesn't feel right.

    Anyone else have this problem or at least; what is normal?

    Cheers
     
  2. Devil's Advocate

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    The automatic on/off differs depending on conditions. Some days you don't even notice and some days you're like the whole thing is shaking. Pretty normal. Cold usually causes rougher starts and stops.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    This is normal. The ICE only stops in one position, and if it misses, MG1 will spin it around and try again. Most people notice these rough shut-downs when the engine is new, cold, or both. It's just part of the low emissions of the Prius.

    Tom
     
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    Thanks for that. It was less of the lumpy start stop which I do understand is to do with the engine clearing the fuel. The bit that I am not so happy about is that when the engine does idle iw it is charging the main battery or you have aircon on - the whole car shakes. I would have thought that a car of this expense would have a really smooth idle. My Saab of 200000 miles has a far smoother idle.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    Hi PriusBrit,

    Water in the gas is my guess, if its allot different than previously. I had something similar happend, but it was 5 degree F for the high temp that week. Bought gas from a station I usually don't, as it was the only one with an open pump. Next tank, no problems, even at similar temps.
     
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    Ooh, that was the theory we came up with a couple of nights ago after
    I tanked up, drove about half a mile and then let the car sit for a
    day and a half. In the meantime someone who didn't quite understand
    the user interface powered up to READY to get the windows open, and
    powered off just after the engine lit for its warmup cycle. Next
    time I went to start, the ICE felt like it was on about a cylinder
    and a half for a little while, and then finally leveled out. It
    was very humid that night and someone suggested "spark plug wires?"
    until I pointed out that there aren't any in this car and the
    ignitors are pretty well protected down in their little wells.
    But a little water in the gas, that then had plenty of time to
    settle down around the tank pickup, sounded plausible. The MPG was
    also absolute crap for the first third or so of our return trip
    home, and began to pick up a little later.
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    Keep in mind that we're getting into colder weather, and this tends
    to make Priuses whose throttle bodies haven't been maintained and
    cleaned well start droppin' like flies with no-starts. Happened
    last year, too. Suggest you get out there and clean those suckers
    up [don't spray, just wipe] while there's still some warm weather.
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  7. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    Sounds to me like it could be electrical. I had a similar, though more severe problem that turned out to be $500 worth of towing, plugs, and coils caused by water getting in. The Prius is not waterproof.
     
  8. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hyo silver @ Oct 20 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]528178[/snapback]</div>
    Did you ever wash or hose down the engine?
     
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    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(richard schumacher @ 2007 10 20 11:02) [snapback]528209[/snapback]</div>
    No. Driving in the rain is apparently sufficient.
     
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    Hi Hobbit

    Is there a technical term for throttle body? Thought I could try that on the dealers

    Thanks!


    PS My MPG seems to have also dropped from 55 to 33. Bizarre.
     
  11. hobbit

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    Yup, it's "throttle body". They'll understand. Point them at the
    training slides if they don't; there are also several
    threads about it here.
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    richard schumacher shortbus driver

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hyo silver @ Oct 20 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]528212[/snapback]</div>
    Bummer! Is yours subject to the recall concerning gasketting for the hood?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(richard schumacher @ 2007 10 21 18:36) [snapback]528621[/snapback]</div>
    That's a very good question, which I intend to take up with Toyota Canada. I had not heard of this until galaxee kindly informed me. The local dealer, where I purchased the car, has never mentioned it. When I phoned them about the steering recall, I was told it did not apply to my car. The dealer where I had the electrical repair done - only because it was closest to where the car broke down - was ready to go ahead with the steering fix, but said they had not heard of the hood gasket issue. Can anyone point me to more information about this?