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seat belt follies

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by hobbit, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. hobbit

    hobbit Senior Member

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    Had a little, uh, fun with the inertial lockers on the seatbelt
    retractors last night. The belts tend to lock under relatively
    mild deceleration and side G-force -- normally you never notice
    if you're not moving around in the seat. So last night I'm coming
    down a fairly bumpy on-ramp and trying to lean *forward* to see
    back into the highway lane in the side-view mirror -- yes, I've got
    them adjusted correctly but with the whole car still at an angle
    to the travel lane it's not enough to see down it without changing
    my viewing origin. Guess what, the belt locked and I couldn't lean
    forward for a few seconds! Normal human necks don't twist around
    quite far enough to clearly see back that far, so while as much of
    a direct view as possible is also prudent in this situation, I really
    needed the mirror right then.
    .
    This happens to me on occasion when trying to reach the EV button on
    the gauge panel, too -- mine is located just a bit out of arm's
    reach without leaning forward slightly; possibly a poor placement
    decision on my part but I don't need to get to it that often after
    the car's in stage 4.
    .
    I don't begrudge the car's engineering to ensure I'm a little safer;
    the belt-locking is almost the moral equivalent of the mom putting
    her hand out across the kid's chest in the passenger seat on a sudden
    stop, whether it would have any effect or not -- but maybe these are
    just a wee bit touchy??
    .
    _H*
     
  2. hobbit

    hobbit Senior Member

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    Had a little, uh, fun with the inertial lockers on the seatbelt
    retractors last night. The belts tend to lock under relatively
    mild deceleration and side G-force -- normally you never notice
    if you're not moving around in the seat. So last night I'm coming
    down a fairly bumpy on-ramp and trying to lean *forward* to see
    back into the highway lane in the side-view mirror -- yes, I've got
    them adjusted correctly but with the whole car still at an angle
    to the travel lane it's not enough to see down it without changing
    my viewing origin. Guess what, the belt locked and I couldn't lean
    forward for a few seconds! Normal human necks don't twist around
    quite far enough to clearly see back that far, so while as much of
    a direct view as possible is also prudent in this situation, I really
    needed the mirror right then.
    .
    This happens to me on occasion when trying to reach the EV button on
    the gauge panel, too -- mine is located just a bit out of arm's
    reach without leaning forward slightly; possibly a poor placement
    decision on my part but I don't need to get to it that often after
    the car's in stage 4.
    .
    I don't begrudge the car's engineering to ensure I'm a little safer;
    the belt-locking is almost the moral equivalent of the mom putting
    her hand out across the kid's chest in the passenger seat on a sudden
    stop, whether it would have any effect or not -- but maybe these are
    just a wee bit touchy??
    .
    _H*
     
  3. zo6tosv

    zo6tosv New Member

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    Seems to me what if your cutting it that close the problem is not the car or the belts. :D

    Hey what goes around comes around.... :rolleyes:

    http://priuschat.com/Serious-hesitation-on...rid-t39960.html



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  4. YoungOrganist

    YoungOrganist New Member

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    Lol I did this a few weeks ago in my new Classic, the seatbelt locked me securely against the seat as I tried to merge onto route 2 on one a short onramp. I almost ended up in the ditch, but some nice idiot slammed on her brakes to let me merge!
     
  5. ny biker

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    I deal with this everyday driving too and from work. I take local roads the whole way (no highways) and there are several intersections with really bad sightlines, so you stop as far forward as you can without getting hit by traffic coming from the left, and then lean way forward so you can see what's coming at you. I have learned to start the lean forward before I touch the brakes to stop at the stop sign, and that way the seatbelt lets me do what I want. If I break first and then try to lean, I can't do it.

    My '98 Camry was the same way, so this is old technology.
     
  6. David Beale

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    I've found my seatbelts are about the same sensitivity re locking on bumps, acceleration, etc. as my previous vehicles. It's a little inconvenient, but I suppose with these types of belts, necessary. It gets more convenient but also more exciting when you have "active" seatbelts and headrests. The belt tightens and the headrest shoots forward during an accident. Some even do this just before the accident, using a small radar unit in the bumpers (forward looking and aft looking). Some Lexus operate like this as well as some BMWs.
     
  7. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    Glad to read you do head checks before moving into traffic and changing lanes, motorcyclist wish everyone was like you.