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Oak Ridge National Lab Prius Evaluation

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  1. V8Cobrakid

    V8Cobrakid Green Handyman

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    If i were to click on a link that points to a pdf file.. usualy it would open another window and display it. Instant download.. er.. open. But.. since i updated to the sp2.. it open another window.. but only displays an X.... now.. as an "add-on" for iexplorer.. pdf files are not enabled... i can't enable them.
     
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    I've had the same problem with SP2 and opening PDF. A nuisance to say the least. I've been on the lookout for a fix, but so far it's a no go.
     
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    V8 and Silverback,
    I redownloaded Acrobat Reader and went whole hog accepting everything that Adobe could throw at me (22 meg, a pain at 52kbps) and ran it in repair mode. Now it works with firefox though I still can't get from 6.0.1 to 6.0.2 but at least now it works!!!
     
  4. jayman

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    I'm not sure if I got the advice from TechNet or Adobe itself, but as soon as I downloaded SP2, I went to Adobe and downloaded the full Acrobat Reader 6.0.2. If I click on a pdf link, a separate window opens and the pdf displays properly.

    Have you tried just to right-click and save the pdf, then open it?

    Good thing the Prius isn't run on Windows!
     
  5. Whitey

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    This is the kind of stupidity I would expect from a pro-Jap, anti-American auto nut. I purchased the 2004 Prius because I want my money to be spent on a valiant effort by Toyota and because I care about the environment. However, don't forget that Toyota also receives funding from their own government for R&D, building and updating facilities, and most importantly, healthcare. So while you complain about US money funding programs, remember that we aren't the only country doing this.
     
  6. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    my setup also. also have mozilla 1.7 on another system, it also not a problem...

    highly recommend you not use IE... major mistake.

    my dad, who needs quantitative data to justify nearly everything he does experimented with using IE and Mozilla on same system.

    his system is pretty secure but he does a lot of browsing being retired military he knows people all over the place and that is how he communicates with all his old nuclear power group buddies.

    well he tried IE for one day and picked up 49 instances of spyware.

    went back to Firefox and after one day, had one instance of spyware. it has been a month and a half and i think he has had about a half dozen instances of spyware. at this rate, he may not live long enough to match the IE totals of a single day.
     
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    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    correction!!!

    my system has mozilla 1.7 AND acrobat 5.1

    i also have firefox 1.0 and acrobat 6.00 and another with acrobat 6.01

    soooo right now im updating acrobat...
     
  8. jayman

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    Good point about spyware and malware. Most folks with Windows have no idea how open their system truly is. If you want to scare yourself, test your computer at:

    https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

    Run a good router between your broadband box and computer, and please use a good and frequently updated antivirus + software firewall.

    BTW: when I run the test above, they can't even see my computer.
     
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    Jayman,

    This is a great site and you should cross post it to the best internet site thread eleewhere on Priuschat. I bookmarked it as well as testing it out. Seems I am pretty safe for the time being.
     
  10. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    any good ISP will protect you against everything this site scans for. but that is the problem... finding a good one.

    mine protects me but does not allow programs like POP3 mail, etc. but who needs a method of saving possible problems to a local drive?
     
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    Your IP address showed up, didn't it?

    I have DSL and a gateway (combo ADSL modem and router with s/w) and everything is showing "stealth".
     
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    Your domain and assigned IP will always show up, but whether any local ports in your stack show up depends on how sophisticated your hardware router and software firewall are.

    We've used this URL at work for awhile now, and you'd be surprised at how many large financial institutions and government agencies completely fail this test.

    Remember if your broadband connection uses DHCP your IP will be different at every session. PPPoE (Used on some DSL platforms) also has an ISP-configured timeout to force your IP to reassign.

    Every time I've run the test, my local IP has been different. Everything else is Stealth, which gives a very high degree of security.
     
  13. jayman

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    I haven't found any in Canada that protect against those sort of probes. Some national ISP's offer optional packages that claim to protect against those sort of port probes, but they usually fail the test.

    Problem is, you have to have a very good understanding of Windows-specific networking issues to know what hardware and software you need to prevent such attacks. The average computer user has to trust Microsoft, their ISP, and computer dealer to give them the best protection.

    Remember you can still pick up malware depending on which site you visit. That's why you need a very good antivirus program with current updates.

    The average computer user is quite perplexed when they're informed that they will have to buy more gadgets on top of an already expensive purchase. I had a very hard time convincing my cousin that she had to buy a router and Norton SystemWorks 2005: combined almost $200 CDN.

    She "saw the light" when Norton cleaned up her hard drive and all those mysterious pop-ups and spam disappeared.

    Sure am glad us Macintosh users don't have to deal with anywhere near that level of nonsense!
     
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    I don't run the test that often but have found that my public IP address remains the same until I restart my gateway. Everything else, as in your case, is stealth.
     
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    i use nocharge.com which firewalls each computer at their servers. it works well but as i said, some services cannot provide full protection in this fashion. POP3 email services being one of them. but internet based email works just fine and with new services like Gmail, i strongly preferred this much better service.

    i do not use IE (except for windows updates... still havent figured how to get around that part) in checking my adaware log. other than the half day i used IE to download SP2 updates (although i didnt go to any other site except microsoft, i still picked up 14 instances of spyware) adaware and spybot combined have picked up less than a half dozen incidences of spyware in the past year on my 5 networked computers.

    the last virus i received was last year in an email sent to me by my father. before that, it was july of 2002. (that date conincides with the time i started using Mozilla exclusively for all my computers on windows platform)

    now to contrast... at work i use IE (not my choice~!!!) and if it werent for redundant main servers AND backup clones updated daily, we would have not been able to work about a dozen times in the past 6 months because of attacks, viruses, and other internet garbage.

    considering my company processes over $15 million in credit card transactions every day, we are playing with fire. unfortunately, all IT processes are done at headquarters in Portland and my suggestions have been completely ignored.

    and its funny when i used AVG antivirus which costs me zero dollars and zero cents. they use e-Trend antivirus which costs (this is a rumor) $45 per station which would be $21600 just for our facility (448 terminals and 32 workstations and laptops) and AVG catches viruses as they come in before they infect the system. the other well, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesnt. although i will admit, the ones that do get in always gets in through the mail or chat...good ole outlook express doing its thing!!
     
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    Dave:

    That's the way most companies operate. I've done enough consulting for large financial services co's - who shall remain anonymous due to the NDA's I signed - to become quite frightened at the prospect of it all.

    Sadly, in many cases, the CIO or the executive entrusted with something as important as a LAN or WAN design is clueless how to do it. That goes a long way to explaining all the mysterious Identity Theft cases out there.

    Amazing true fact: a large specialty chemicals co I did some consulting for had, as their IT exec, a guy with a ChemEng degree. He did admit to me the only computer class he ever took was an introductory Basic.

    In 1978.

    He refused to pay for expensive firewall and router updates, as he claimed the firewall was "permanent."

    :pukeright:

    So how do I deal with that sort of bulls***?? I bill by the hour.

    And buy nice toys like a Toyota Prius! :p
     
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    I just finished reading the Oak Ridge report. I also noticed the supercharging comment. I also noticed that they spent a lot of time taking apart the hardware on the EV side and ignored the ICE. The fact is that the ICE ultimately produces all of the power. It is the efficiency of the ICE supported by the battery and traction motor that makes the hybrid concept work at its best.

    Sure there are friction and other losses in the drive train. Does anyone have an AWD vehicle. Why do you think it gets such low gas milage? The Power Split Device in the Prius is a great way to share the workload. Maybe it could be improved somehow, but the Oak Ridge report makes it sound like a shortcoming.

    The Oak Ridge boys had virtually no comments on the technology. What was the purpose of their report? Was it to give info to GM so that they can come up with a bit of hybrid technology? Well maybe a GM engineer could rig up something that might beat a Prius friction number but it will still only get 23 miles per gallon.
     
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    Right, all powertrains have efficiency losses. Take a conventional RWD car or pickup truck, the losses through the automatic transmission and rear axle can be enormous.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman\";p=\"57477)</div>
    This sort of thing should become a lot less common in the United States now, in the era of Sarbanes-Oxley. There's actually the potential for criminal penalties against company management in case of a break-in.

    The CEO and CFO of the company I work for don't want to go to jail. You would not believe all the security projects IT has had going this year. I imagine SOX compliance has been at minimum a nuisance this year for anyone working for a publically traded US company.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kenmac\";p=\"56951)</div>
    It's obviously wrong. The question is, how the hell did they ever think that in the first place?

    My guess is that they figured out that the Prius really has a Miller cycle engine, not an Atkinson cycle engine, and Miller cycle engines are often supercharged (like the Mazda Millenia S, manufactured until 2002). So they just assumed the Prius must be supercharged too.