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08 with 300 miles on it needs new fuel tank?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by ryanmorley, Apr 30, 2008.

  1. ryanmorley

    ryanmorley Junior Member

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    I've had my '08 Prius for just 2 weeks. I have driven it very gently in that time.

    After about 100 miles the check engine light came on so I took it to the dealer who told me it had a "minor evap leak" and that the gas cap was probably loose.

    At about 200 miles the check engine light came on again so I took it back in. This time they did smoke tests and found a crack in the fuel tank.

    The dealer says that the tank needs to be replaced and that it won't be covered under my warranty. I have concerns about both of these statements.

    I believe in more traditional vehicles there are putty-like substances that can be used to seal cracks in fuel tanks. Is there a reason this cheap-but-good fix won't work with the Prius?

    Does anyone have extensive knowledge of the warranty? Are there any arguments I can make for having this repair covered?

    I haven't been able to find '08 Prius fuel tanks on-line, does anyone know what they go for? And how many hours the replacement might take?


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  2. NaptownPrius

    NaptownPrius Getting Greener....

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    That sounds like BS. Look at your warranty book to see if the fuel tank is covered.
     
  3. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    Hi Ryan,

    Did your dealer explain why the problem would not be covered under warranty? Unless you had an accident that impacted the fuel tank, or overfilled the tank; any problem should be covered under the 3 year / 36K mile basic warranty and may also be covered under the emissions control warranty.

    The MSRP of a fuel tank for 2004 - 2006 models is $350. Hopefully the price for newer models will be similar.

    I do not think it is acceptable practice to use putty for the repair of any fuel tanks.
     
  4. TheOtherDaveâ„¢

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    Overfill or not, the fuel tank is undoubtedly covered by the comprehensive warranty. The dealer should have no issue filing a warranty claim to reimburse their costs for replacing the tank.

    Ask them why they expect you to foot the bill. If the service manager gives you sass, call Toyota corporate and keep moving up the ladder until they capitulate.
     
  5. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

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    unless you topped off the tank and overflowed through the charcoal canister, that's a warranty issue. they will be able to tell the difference when they pull it apart.
     
  6. Bill Merchant

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    :welcome: Welcome to PriusChat, ryanmorley! A new Prius should be covered by the bumper-to-bumper new car warranty for 12,000 miles or 12 months. At 300 miles, you're probably still on your first tank of gas, so no way you could have flooded the tank through the evap canister. You simply got a defective car.

    My advice is to never go to this dealer again! If they try to rip you off after two weeks, imagine what they'll try to do to you at regular 5000 mile service intervals. Go to a different dealer! And call Toyota to let them know how this shyster treats its customers.
     
  7. ryanmorley

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    Thanks for all the responses!

    I am in fact still on the original tank of gas that came from the dealer... so it's not from overfilling.

    The dealer is saying that it looks like there was an impact that caused the crack. I don't believe this is the case because most of the ~100 miles I had on it when the light first came on were highway miles. I did go down a gravel road that may have kicked up some rocks and scratched the undercarriage... but there's no reasonable way driving on a gravel road could cause a substantial crack in the fuel tank.

    The people in the service department seem to know their stuff and want to help... so I don't want to dismiss the situation as a crooked dealership. As I understand it the dealership gets the same amount of $$$ whether it comes from me or from Toyota if it's covered under warranty. Their attitude seems to be that they'd rather get it from Toyota.

    The service manager at my dealership said that he's got a call in to Toyota's regional manager to see if he can get the repair approved. I'm hoping to get the verdict tomorrow... if the regional manager says it's not covered I'll have to figure out a strategy for fighting that decision.
     
  8. Patrick Wong

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    Actually, I believe that the dealer's service dept will get more by charging you retail prices for the repair vs. the warranty reimbursement that they would receive from Toyota. However I accept your judgment that the dealer is trying to be fair.

    Assuming that the warranty claim is denied, I suggest that you take a look at the fuel tank and take some good photographs of the damaged area. See if it is reasonable that the damage could have been caused by you driving over a large rock, i.e., is the damage at the leading edge of the tank nearest to the ground.

    If that is not plausible, then your argument should be that the car was damaged in transit from the factory to the dealer (or maybe the tank was damaged before it was installed), and that you should not be held responsible for such damage since you experienced a problem so soon after you took delivery.

    If it is plausible that you might have damaged the tank, then it will probably be harder for you to secure warranty relief.

    Good luck.
     
  9. JimboK

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    If it is indeed "road hazard" damage, check your comprehensive insurance coverage. I would think that would cover it less any deductible.
     
  10. richard schumacher

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    Bummer. These things are just not made for unpaved roads. Good luck, and please let us know how this works out.
     
  11. ryanmorley

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    The dealer just called and they're going to cover it under warranty! :D

    Now I'm just waiting for the parts to come in.
     
  12. efusco

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    Good, this sounded like a manufacturing flaw.
     
  13. clynn

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    Hate to be a parrot and ape all of the previous responses, but long story short. It's covered under the warranty, even if you had damage from rock or the road (all of which is reasonably foreseeable).

    I'd go get a second opinion. This happened to me with another vehicle. One dealership told me it wasn't covered, but the next dealership didn't blink and covered it under the warranty. AFTER the repair, I told the second dealership that the first had denied the claim. I was told that this was because the first dealership has a number of related warranty claims and was unable to process anymore without arousing the suspicions of the manufacturer. Whether that was true or not, I do know that the second opinion took 5 minutes out of my day and saved me $$$ on repair.