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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by stevoid, May 16, 2008.

  1. V8Cobrakid

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    i have yet to see why you want to do this. we can't exactly help if we lack the proper pieces to the puzzle.

    to me.. it sounds as if you may be trying to use it as a generator.. unless you have some sort of huge pulley and a water mill... it's kinda pointless. the regen during a free spin is low. I can't recall numbers but I've cruised down really long passes and it charges extremely slow....

    I use my prius as a 12V charger(jumper cables) for my parents motor home... when it's used. the prius is much quieter than the built in generator. It almost seems to be more efficient.. seeing we won't have to drive the motor home to refuel it.
     
  2. V8Cobrakid

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    trac might flip out.... the prius doesn't use a braking type of trac control system. it just kills power.. so it may kill regen.... it tends to turn regen off when you skid so i feel that applies here.

    so.... 4 wheel synchronized dolly system?

    unless you have an 04 or 05.. then you can turn trac off.. but the engine will want to run, so it's not very beneficial.
     
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    Different strokes for different folks.

    For example, a few years back, someone asked if there was a way to supercharge the hybrid battery. The answer was a series of pumping the brake pedal while the car was in [P] which will trigger a charging sequence that will run the engine at high RPMs until the battery is fully charged or until the owner disables it, whichever comes first. My memory is terrible but it was something like that.

    Of course, the question was: why would you intentionally race the engine, emit exhaust, and lower your overall mileage just to charge a battery that takes care of itself?
    Answer: because I'm heading to a race track and the Prius takes a better jump off the line with a fully charged pack. And almost every competitor in the Hybridfest MPG Challenge starts with a fully charged pack.
     
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    i dont see th op responding as i have not felt he was really serious
     
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    Hi Tony,
    Hold the brake with your left foot and floor the accelerator. The engine will race and put a charge on the battery until the cutoff, 80% is reached. Then the engine will stop.

    To add two more, one could put a maximum charge on their battery pack and then use "R" to go up a hill. When the battery runs out of charge, the altitude change and vehicle mass gives the amount of energy in the pack. So far, that altitude change is greater than 26 meters, 85 ft.

    The other is to look at the temperature change during battery charging:
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    I've long suspected that early traction battery failures are related to high temperatures and hills. The combination of regenerative braking that forces a charge on the battery, heating it up, followed by higher temperatures, especially after parking, means some of us are 'cooking' our batteries.

    I live and work in the flatland parts of Huntsville, which means proper battery temperature studies have to be conducted on weekends and trips. I have suggested those who live in mountainous areas might want to add battery temperature monitoring. This would let them investigate ways to minimize regenerative heating effects on traction batteries.

    Well I have some chores to run and I might as well start the study. Brindley Mountain is not far away and high enough to get usable data. First to benchmark what happens and then try different experiments.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    He May of wanted to know if this would charge a dead drive battery enouf to strart the ICE. Somthing I am curious about. If so, you could use an old wheel balencer wheel spinner to charge the battery. Just a thought, farmers way to charge a dead drive Battery. Also dose aneybody know how much voltage differance in a modugle is required to set a Code P3006? Bob I had the same thought about the heat may be the reason the battery post are getting loose and leaking battery acid. I once had a set of small block chevy heads cleaned, and they did it in some sort of heating system and when I got them back the bronz valve guides were very loose. Cast iron aperantly expands more than bronze and it squezed them and made them loose is my thought on it. Any Thought's on this, Maby the battery needs more cooling.
    Roy White
     
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    OH! it makes sense now.

    In that case.. the car would have to be in Ready mode... and you may have to have an 04 or 05 prius so you can disable the traction control.. i think the car cuts out when trac is on and only 1 wheel spins... or maybe that's only when braking?

    that's a wonderful idea... especially for those who like to run out of gas.. :juggle:

    I can see it now.. a mountain bike chain liked to the car's front tire... it's like plugging in the car... except it's slowly burning it while the car is in ready mode.. hehe