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  1. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    Saturday morning (if I remember rightly) I was unable to post here at Prius Chat. I could access the whole site, including my PMs and the forum topic lists. But I could not open any thread to read or post. All I got was the "Page cannot be displayed" error (which I got frequently in any case, but suddenly it was permanent.)

    I could post over on PriusOnline, so your basis phpBB was not the issue, nor any security settings that might affect access to basic phpBB. I was not getting those little "security has blocked stuff" symbols, and ZoneAlarm is set to allow everything but third-party cookies on this site.

    My only guess is that IE was timing out on the slow feed from PC, but on the other hand, sometimes the error message was coming up almost immediately.

    Well, the problem is solved, but not the mystery: I have downloaded Firefox and am using it now, and obviously, I am now able to post. (Though text formatting does not work the same in Firefox as it does in IE ; in IE you can highlight text and then click on the Bold or Underline button, etc., but that does not work in this browser.)

    Anyway, for good or ill I am back.
     
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    I noticed something not THAT similar, but it may be related. I could not log onto a website (OKCupid, it's an online dating site) from my computer using IE. This was the only website I was having problems with. I tried logging onto the site from my family's computer, and it worked fine. I spent a really long time trying to figure out why this was happening (it wasn't anything stored or cached, wasn't any incorrect security settings, etc.). I don't remember the exact error I was getting though.

    A bunch of my friends had been telling me IE sucks and I should get Firefox, so I was like, well might as well download it and see if I can log on with that. Strangely, that fixed the problem. Since then I haven't used IE; I like Firefox better anyway.

    I figure it was God telling me not to use IE. It was really freaking me out and I still don't know why it happened.
     
  3. TonyPSchaefer

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    The formatting in replies is different. Optimally, you have to start the formatting before you type the text. If you decide later, then even if you've highlighted the text, the formatting will appear at the very end of the message. You just have to select the formatting code and drog it to the appropriate place.
    NOTE: the cursor doesn't change from the "I" bar but still drags. Looks can be deceiving.
     
  4. bookrats

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    "Use Firefox" is a mandate from God?

    ...Yeah, I'll buy that. It makes sense.
     
  5. DaveinOlyWA

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    firefox/mozilla is slowing taking over market share from IE and its a shame. unlike the Prius, firefox has no supply issues. but like the Prius, it is so much better than IE its almost in a category by itself.

    sure there are a few clunky things about firefox. its inability to find common programs for common file types may seem comical to some. (for me i have multiple drives on all my computers and the Windows OS resides on C (in most cases) with no other programs, so when i try to open something from the internet that i know is safe, i will often get a

    "Mozilla doesnt know how to handle this file type...etc."

    but its an easy manner to browse to the correct place most of the time and its a small inconvenience for such a great program.

    i think IE's biggest problem, in defense of ms, is that they are no longer a brower more than they are an aplet for an OS designed to access the internet. it has become too integrated. but that is where the problem lies. there is too much danger and bad intentions out there on the internet. you would be safer parking your Prius with the fob in it, unlocked in downtown LA.

    i have to tell you a story about 3 years ago, i was using mozilla and taking an graphics and web design class as the last part of a course that also prepared us for A+, Net +, etc certs. we were using computers in class that we had total control over installing and maintaining all the software, etc. our class project was to design a website and we were given total freedom to do it any way we wanted to with one stipulation... it had to be hand coded in a plain txt editor.

    well they wanted us to use windows 2000 ( XP was available everywhere by then but not to us) but the graphics software i wanted to use i brought from home and it wasnt compatible with win 2000, so i did a reinstall and put on win 98 instead and then changed the browser to mozilla. my instructor had a cow when she heard. all she could do was tell me that the rendering in other browsers would be different and because she had never heard of mozilla at the time (i later explained that it was based largely on Netscapes core or vice versa)

    well what she didnt know is that mozilla color codes html coding when viewing it making it much easier to troubleshoot coding errors. but that was an advantage i needed since most coding had to have double arguments to be compatible with both netscape and IE.

    well she also ran a web site design business (she was part time instuctor and we were her only class) and she came in Monday and immediately apolgized to me and said that she was working on a site for a client and it was nearly done. in fact she presented a final version to the client and he requested minor changes that she coded right then and there. but when she went to display the site it would nt work. she doublechecked the code, tried to access the site from two other computers and everything was fine so it was the clients system. after exhausting all possibilities, she remembered me harping on mozilla and decided what the heck. she installed mozilla on the clients computer and wham... everything worked just great. she now carries a laptop with dual browsers loaded.
     
  6. jayman

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    Daniel:

    Do you think this is related to the Stop message you got when you installed SP2?? Did you manage to find the Minidump files that point to the exact module, eg PFN_LIST?
     
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    It was the only explanation that I could come up with given my limited technical knowledge about IE :mrgreen:
     
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    Sold! Wow, N I C E !!!!!
     
  10. daniel

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    No, I don't think it is related to SP2. For one, I got no messages. I installed SP2 way back when they first made it available by Automatic Update, and I got no messages. The install was completely transparent. So I've been running it for quite some time. For another thing, PriusOnline is also phpBB, and it works fine with IE.

    I know nothing about minidump files, and I have no idea what PFN_LIST means.

    I did have some problems after that last security update, but I was posting here after that happened, so it seems unlikely to be the problem.

    As an aside, another quirk I don't like about Firefox: if I am writing a reply in the reply box, IE lets me scroll the entire window by moving my cursor outside the reply box and using the scroll wheel. With Firefox, the reply box has focus for the scroll wheel even when the cursor is outside the box.

    On the other hand, I like the tabs in Firefox. For some uses that's more convenient than opening a lot of windows.
     
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    Hmmmmm, that's strange. When I'm writing a reply and I move the cursor outside the box and click, I can scroll just fine. OTOH, IE allows me to scroll even when the cursor is inside the reply box.
     
  12. daniel

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    Yes, if you click outside the box you change the focus to outside. IE does not require that click.
     
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    Computers: hate 'em or loathe 'em, you can't live without 'em.
     
  14. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    I lived quite nicely without one for half (?) my life. I wrote letters and got a reply in 10 days to 2 weeks. I wrote them with a ball-point pen, which was delightfully entertaining as the cat was always trying to steal my pen away. Later I used a manual typewriter.

    Now I get upset if my internet connection is down for 3 hours because I might not be getting an important email.

    It really seems to me that my quality of life has declined as the technology in my possession has increased.
     
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    Tell me about it. The more crap we stuff into our lives, the less time we have for life.

    At least once every two weeks, I like to turn off the computer, shut off the ringer, turn off the tv, and just curl up with a good book.

    I see kids walking around with cell phones getting all excited about sending each other SMS's "CUL8R" etc etc. It's enough to make me shriek "get a life!"

    On the other hand, I'm quite thankful that technology is so buggy and unpredictable. I make a good living off it.
     
  16. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    i love the tabs because you can save a set of tabs together as one link...

    try this, i pay most of my bills on line. that includes electric, DirecTv, cell, 3 credit cards and landline phone, all are a shortcut that opens a tab to each site.

    i click on that link once a month, log into each tab one at at time pay bills and close until next month... done.

    still think tabbed browsing is the best invention since sliced bread!!