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A bad day turn worse... hail damage!

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by rpiereck, May 29, 2008.

  1. rpiereck

    rpiereck Regenerator

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    As some of you know, the wife and I are on a cross country trip across the US. I initially headed from California to Virginia to attend come classes and now we're headed back west.

    Well, today we left Des Moines, Iowa and headed west towards Nebraska. The bad omen started when I stopped to refuel my tank and the gas station wouldn't take my debit card... strange, as I knew I had money... so I call the bank and found out that the hotel where we stayed in Virginia charged us twice... $1500 twice!! So I had a negative balance. I managed to transfer money from the savings account to remedy that and had a few nasty words with the hotel manager back in Virginia...

    Then as I am driving I notice my fuel economy is bad... I mean, really bad! From Indianapolis to Des Moines I was driving at 75 mph and getting 43 mpg... now I am driving at the same 75 mph, winds are mild from the side, and I am getting 35 mpg! Wth! Then I remember I fueled it with that ethanol E10 crap fuel because it was cheaper... last time I'll do that if I can avoid it, it's all gasoline after this...

    So we're headed west on I-80 and winds are picking up... a lot, then the sky in front of us turns dark, dark Magnetic Gray, it's 4 pm and everybody has their headlights on, it's like night is falling upon us. The rain starts and it just gets progressively stronger with each minute until we cannot see 30 feet in front of us! All cars on the highway are going 30 mph, with emergency flashers on and windshield wipers thrashing wildly as if on crack. Not good... Thanks to the GPS I see the next exit is 1.2 miles away so I hang on...

    We get out of the highway and make a bee-line to the nearest gas station. I'm thinking hail damage already so I want to put it next to a pump, under the roof cover. As we get there we are out of luck as the gas station is packed! Trucks everywhere, twenty cars squeezed near the two pump islands, no room for us! We park in front of the convenience store, ten feet away from the doors, our car exposed to the onslaught from the sky... this is gonna suck, but I hope we only get rain. As we head out in the rain and make a dash for the store we start getting pelted with small hail stones. I hope they stay small!

    Inside the store is like the end of the world is upon us, about a hundred people looking scared, watching the outside... we hear English, Spanish, even Chinese... doesn't even feel like Nebraska... no matter the language you can feel the somber mood... some people watch the weather channel, there's a tornado watch on. On of the guys working at the store mentions a tornado touched down ten minutes ago four miles from us, another man mentions a train has derailed... even a pitbull on a leash looks scared, tail between its legs, the dog knows this is not good weather. Then it starts...

    Pock! Pock! Pock! The sound gets louder as the hailstones grow bigger. We are told to step away from the glass in case it shatters. Between the survivors I glance outside and see the stones on the ground, these things are big! I see some from golf ball to orange size... this is definitely not good at all! I look further out and see my one month old Prius weathering the storm, wishing I could bring it inside with me!

    As soon as the hail stops people head out... we don't care about the rain and wind anymore, people just want to see the damage. I just wanted to get out of there. We are headed west and the storm is headed east, so as soon as I start driving the sooner the storm will leave us. My windshields are intact but a Neon to our right and a F-150 to our right are not so lucky, their glasses shattered... Toyota builds a tough tin box, I rekoned!

    A few minutes on the highway and the sky is clear in front of us, the deadly storm casting a gloomy darkness on my rear view mirror. I'm pushing 80 mph, glad to see dry pavement ahead... Then we head into North Platte, a city, not a town, with a few businesses, restaurants and a nice supermarket. I park at the supermarket and as soon as I get out I assess the car for damage...

    The roof is all pock marked, dents galore! :mad: The engine hood has some dents, the rear hatch has a dent, the gas filler door has a dent, the body has a few odd small dents elsewhere, the rear left taillight is broken... This sucks!! Argh! I immediately call my insurance, they assure me the comprehensive will cover this... I'll pay the $500 deductible and they'll have it repaired. (one good news)

    I have read the other threads on hail damage and I am happy that is can be repaired, however I still have a few questions:

    - How will this affect my insurance premium? Will it go p or stay the same as it was a natural event? I will call my insurance company (USAA) again tomorrow to ask, but I am curious, this is my first time ever making an insurance claim.
    - The car is Spectra Blue Mica, my guess is it will be a pretty hard color to match, will they automatically paint the whole car or not? I will insist they do, but again, I am curious.
    - Those of you that have had the roof and other parts replaced, how was the work afterwards? Did the car leak, have rattles, fit problems, etc?
    - Any recommendations on a good quality body shop in the SF Bay area? I still have a few more days driving until I get back to North Cal, and now I'll be driving my hail damaged car... what a bummer.

    I am really not looking forward to having a rental car for a few weeks, but I'll deal with it... I doubt they'll give me a rental Prius, but that would be nice... ;) I'll have to deal with the whole claims process when I get to California, I am trying to educate myself on the whole process before it all starts.

    I am feeling a bit bummed out right now, the car is 20 feet away on the motel parking lot but I don't feel like taking pictures, I'll probably get some tomorrow and share the pain...
     
  2. mhawkin1

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    Sorry to hear about this... that does suck.

    In my limited experience, insurance companies consider hail 'an act of God' - they generally do not raise your rates after such an event.

    If they are ‘dents’ and not ‘dents with chips’..... I think experienced body specialists can pull most of them without touching the paint. I had some pretty nasty hail damage a few years ago (enough to total the car), but a lot of my friends had their dents pulled without paint work.

    Good luck.
     
  3. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

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    Man that is terrible. :(

    You just got that car too!

    Let us know how the insurance deal works out. I wish I had advice to help you out.
     
  4. galaxee

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    ouch :( that's the alley for ya, unfortunately.

    my comp claim (vandalism) last year caused no rate increase because it was not my fault. i can't imagine them finding you at fault for this. a quality body shop will guarantee their work and have good references- usually they can order the oem paint so don't worry about that too much. hope you get everything back the way it should be!
     
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    Sorry about the hail damage but damn, that was a good read.
     
  6. David Beale

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    Sorry about the hail damage. It shouldn't affect your rates.

    The E10 will not drop the mileage that much. It drops it about 5% max. or perhaps a few MPG. Perhaps they mixed E85 in the E10 underground tank? The car will run for quite a while on up to E85 without showing a check engine light, and the mileage will suffer on E85 as much as you indicated. But don't worry. One tank won't harm anything (but your mileage).

    A bad day, but look on the bright side. Nobody was hurt and you've got a good story.
     
  7. leftie1277

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    sorry to hear about the damage, great read though.
    I also have USAA (the absolute best insurance company in the world!) and your rates should not go up at all, as others said, act of god
     
  8. MagneticGrayIndy

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    I don't know if this will help or hurt, and I know how much we love these cars, but remember it is just a thing. It can be replaced; it is meaningless.
     
  9. sas0611

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    Well, I feel foolish for a brief period of depression I experienced last night when I notice my first door ding on my 2 month old prius. I've been with my wife on several shopping trips where she has mindlessly parked wherever there was a spot - giving no heed to my suggestions to stay away from the hugh SUV's, park adjacent to a concrete curb on one side, park near nicer cars.... I was beginning to think that all my rituals related to parking didn't matter because she has had no dent's (until now) with her cavalier attitude.

    My wife could care less about the dinged door on our unforgiving magnetic grey prius. She couldn't understand why I was lamenting over a piece of metal. Initially I felt it was all her fault and her flipant attitude pissed me off more. Women just don't get it.... after more introspection I realized that my wife's attitude was in fact the correct response. I will probably at some point get a dent wizard type of service to fix it - probably after she inevitably acquires many more but I stopped letting it ruin my day and no longer feel the need to get it fixed immediately as to return it to some imagined 'perfect condition'. It is a thing - as mentioned by the previous poster. Seeking joy or happiness from 'things' which are never perfect and are always subject to the laws of impermanence is a sure prescription for constant discontent.

    That being said, I am sorry to hear about the hail storm. I believe that dent wizards have hail specialty teams. Go to their web site - much of the damage may be correctable without painting many of the affected surfaces and hopefully since the repairs are faster than full refinishing you'll be back into your baby sooner than later.

    I was struck by your writing and descriptive skills. It was a wonderfully constructed accounting of what happened - it conjured up so many images not only of the damage being inflicted to your car but to the psyche of you and your wife and those huddled inside that small convenience store. Thanks for taking the time to so carefully craft the story and choose your words so aptly.

    Steve
     
  10. sdtundra

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    That sounded like something out of a movie....you should sell the rights and make a short film:nerd:
     
  11. Bill Merchant

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    Yeah, Steve, Keats was just spoofin'.

    Thanks for a great story, Renato. Sorry about your car, do post some pics.
     
  12. Sufferin' Prius Envy

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    Ah, look on the bright side . . .

    1) You survived and are unhurt.
    2) You have a great story to tell.
    3) You have USAA. They ARE the best. [jealous I didn't get in when I could :mad:]
    4) In the mean time, with a roof pocked like a golf ball, you should be getting better mileage. ;)
     
  13. rpiereck

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    Thanks everybody for the replies and all the encouragement. Yes, I'm glad I have USAA, I've been using their banking services for 8 years and they are beyond excellent. This is my first time dealing with their insurance and I am glad to hear they are just as good.

    We're in Salt Lake City now (we drove straight through Wyoming yesterday) and the car is filthy, the dirt masks the dents :D I promise to get some pics when I wash the car, maybe today.

    We're headed to Reno today, I hope Lieutenant Dangle won't pull us over :rolleyes: and should be back in SF Bay after tomorrow, then I have to deal with the whole repair ordeal...
     
  14. rpiereck

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    Ok, update: I took some pictures but they didn't come out that good, it's really hard to take pictures of dents on dark paint!

    I took the car to Capitol Collision in San Jose, CA and they seem to be very professional. Large shop, specializes in collision repair (duh), in house paint booth, etc. They had the dent removal expert look at the car and he said he could repair some dents, and that the hood had to be replaced because it's made of aluminum. The total estimate came to $4308, including new tail light and painting the whole car. I saw the car in the paint booth the other day, and although I couldn't go in there it seemed that all body panels looked smooth, no dents left. On Wednesday I am picking it up and paying the $500 deductible. I love USAA. I didn't have to fill up any paperwork at all, that was all done between the repair shop and USAA insurance.

    On a twist of things, the wife and I decided we are not going to stay in San Jose. The real estate prices here are ludicrous, they are asking that we earn 3x rent to qualify for rental on a $1200 hole in the wall 600 sqft studio. Crappy looking houses are going for $600,000 here! Is everybody in San Jose dealing drugs to afford living here? There's no way I'll afford this while going to college full time, so we're moving to Utah and I'll go to college there as I have been accepted at Utah Valley University. Also San Jose State University's aviation program is going down in quality and the Governator has cut education spending in California, so we're headed to Utah. Rent in Provo, UT is $500 for a 2 bedroom apartment and they only require 2x income. I can afford that. UVU is getting pumped full of money and their aviation program is one of their most important programs. So, as soon as I pick up my Prius we will be loading it on a U-Haul trailer and will do the three day drive east to Utah and set up our lives there.
     
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    Yep, can't beat USAA, great insurance, haven't had a bit of trouble with them, glad you are getting your car taken care of.
     
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    Why do people insist on driving with emergency flashers on? It is both illegal and dangerous.
     
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    chrisspaulding sexy, high tech, fun

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    Yeah, and why do cops flash those annoying red and blue lights when they have someone pulled over on the side of the fast, dark interstate?

    Some people huh Gator?
     
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    From your description of the damage from this unfortunate event, it would
    seem fair to say that the metalwork was "pocked like the surface of a golf ball."

    So, in the cause of pure scientific inquiry, but at the risk of creating but
    another urban legend, did you notice any changes to your FE/MPG after the
    :hail: :hail: <-- "hail" damage?

    Inquiring minds want to know...

    No, I'm not pulling your leg, this is a serious inquiry.
     
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    Sorry to hear about your car, but on a related matter, it never makes sense to use a debit card if you can use a credit card and pay off the balance at the end of the month (which I assume you can do if you use debit). First, you have no one to fight for you when you get screwed; 2) you get no rewards; 3) merchants can put a hold on your checking account to make sure they get their money, which they can't do with a credit card.

    If you can pay off credit charges at the end of the month and avoid interest charges, you should never use a debit card.
     
  20. rpiereck

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    I believe that on most situations, close to 100% of the time, driving with them on is dangerous. And I know it is illegal. But on that day on the highway in Nebraska, when it went from 3 pm bright to 9 pm dark in a matter of a few minutes, and the rain was so hard that visibility was a little over a few hundred feet I believed I need all I had to make my car visible, so I put the flashers on. The last thing I needed was some speeding moron to rear end me and then say he didn't see me. I mitigated the risk of driving by breaking the law, but so what, the safety of my family is more important than some minor law, it's not like I killed someone.