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Suppressing all beeps?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by knowledgeseeker, Feb 21, 2005.

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    knowledgeseeker New Member

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    This came up because my long-suffering wife gets really unnerved when I press a button to change the display mode, or whatever, and the car beeps. Her instincts tell her that such a sound means that something is wrong. It is especially bad when I do it from the steering wheel (so she sees no hand motion), or when I "make a beep" as a passenger when she is driving. I have to warn her before I make a beep, and (of course) I sometimes forget.

    The annoyance is rubbing off on me, too. When I change screens (etc.) I know that I am doing so, and do not need to be told (along with the other occupants).

    Is there perhaps a separate speaker or piezo that one could shove some sound deadening in? Or attenuate electrically, even if it means cutting a trace and soldering?

    There are warning beeps (very few) that we may perhaps find useful and nuisance beeps (many). Faced with a choice between all or none, I'd choose none. Is there any way to make the system completely silent?
     
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    Other than the reverse and seatbelt Beeps that I'm sure you have heard of.
     
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    What makes the sound? Would it be possible to shove some sound deadening material in whatever it is?

    Also - are you familiar enough with the internals that you can rule out the possibility of some way to modify the wiring or the sound generating device?

    This is serious enough for me that I'm willing to take extreme measures ...
     
  4. Kyle Pehrson

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    In the scan tool I can customize the warning sounds of a few things I am looking them up right now so I don't have to be corrected by everyone. For example the SKS warnings.
     
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    Ok maybe I'm missing something. How do you turn off reverse/seat belt beeps? I have not found out how,looking in Owners man & NCF. As for MFD beeps,I have not found out that you can turn it off either. :roll:
     
  6. Kyle Pehrson

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    Steps:

    1. Power on the car to IG-ON or READY. IG-ON will do for this purpose.
    2. Using the Trip/ODO button, set the Trip/ODO display to ODO (not Trip A or Trip B)
    3. Power off the car.
    4. Now power the car to READY (brake on). This is required so that step 6 works correctly.
    5. Within 6 seconds of powering on, press and hold the Trip/ODO button for 10 seconds or more.
    6. WHILE STILL HOLDING ODO *after* the 10 seconds, shift the "gear" selector from P to R, then back to P. Now release the Trip/ODO button.
    7. If the last step was successful, "b on" or "b off" should be displayed in the location where the Trip Odometer or Odometer is normally displayed. "b on" is beep on, and "b off" is beep off.
    8. Press Trip/ODO to toggle the mode.
    9. Now power the car off to exit the toggle mode.
    10. Power the car on to READY and confirm the reverse beep status by shifting to R. The beep should not be audible if "b off" was selected, and should be audible if "b on" was selected..

    Note: The Repair manual page states that if the the 12v battery is disconnected, the beep will reset to the default of on, and this procedure will need to be performed again. The repair manual also isn't clear that Trip/ODO should remain depressed while shifting.

    Additional Note: The driver and passenger seatbelt reminder chime can be disabled or enabled (respectively, defaults appear to be driver on and passenger off) using similar steps. Instead of shifting from P to R to P in step 6, simply buckle then unbuckle the appropriate seatbelt while continuing to depress the Trip/ODO button.
     
  7. DanMan32

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    Gee rick, you're starting to disappoint me. Need a vacation?

    By the way, you don't need the scan tool to change passive mode, though it is easier. Fortunately I found that out after getting my dealer to set it, then hating it. Found the dance in the repair manual (anti-theft diagnostic section) and reversed it.

    Not that I recommend it, but the dance is posted here somewhere.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DanMan32\";p=\"66717)</div>
    Sorry if I disappoint you ,Danman. I don't get any calls from Prius(or any other model)owners wanting to make changes. I do try to keep some info in my head,but don't remember everything. I try mostly to remember where I may find the info(can't remember the whole wiring for all year/model Toyota's,haha). And maybe that is why I'm here,to keep my mind updated,haha. Is that ok :roll:
     
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    I've been driving my 2005 Prius for a few weeks and the beeping that happens every time when I press a button on the touch screen or one of the buttons on the perimeter is probably the most annoying thing about the car. (I'm also disappointed by the loss of rear seat headroom, rear visibility, and direct climate control through knobs compared to the 2003 version).

    I knew about the reverse beeping in advance and had no trouble turning that off. I see in the download file from this thread that it should be possible to turn off beeping from the locking or unlocking the car at the dealer. But what can be done about the touch screen beeping? (note: when I use the steering wheel controls, there is no beeping unlike the original poster - strange). The beeping sound comes through all the stereo speakers so it is impossible to cut a wire or muffle a speaker.

    This is ridiculous for a near $30K car. I should be able to easily suppress some or all beeps through an easy interface on the touch screen. I will definitely be writing a letter of complaint to Toyota (and maybe one to Coastal Dave begging for a solution).

    The 2004/2005 does have positive points over the 2003 obviously: it drives a lot better (quieter, better handling, more power), it has supposedly better mileage (waiting to find out for sure - I'm still in break-in), and I can sleep in the back on camping trips.

    Dara
     
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    Unless you go to sites like this you don't even know that there is a possibility of changing any of the standard settings on the car. Nobody knows, nobody asks. Though I am not impressed that I want any of the options available.
     
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    Rick,

    What is the real deal on the alarm?

    I have no alarm in my package, but from what Dan and others have noted, the alarm kit is only a siren and hood switch.

    I know the car can currently make a racket because it has the panic button on the SKS fob It also knows when any of the doors are opened, and why.

    So why does the alarm system not work as described in the manual? Can it simply be turned on as a software switch, as I had my dome light duration setting changed? Obviously it couldn't detect hood tampering, and it would not be as loud as with the siren (but frankly I'd view that as an advantage).

    The question is, can it be done?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    I don't think it can be done. Looking at the system diagram,it goes thru the Body ECU. Yes it has a security horn(not a siren) and hood switch,but I beleive the ECU is different also. If it was the same for all Prius', then there would be people coming in and having it turned on by the Body Customization settings and having a free alarm. And if I am mistaken,Kyle will jump in and let us know :lol:
     
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    Yes it can. But Toyota left out the glass brakage ecu, short wire harness & a mic. to detect glass braking. I went out & took pictures.
     
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    It will only let me do 3 at a time.
     
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    Now I need to explain a few things
    1. All of the setting are turned on in the body ecu. with the scan tool I don't charge to turn these on It took me 1min 22sec to do this I timmed my self for DanMan32. because he was charged $30 to change Alarm settings. There is no song & dance (as Dan calls it) to turn on the Alarm on like the Passive settings.
    2. There is not a hood switch to be installed. It's allready there thats how it knows if the hoods open before it will let you reprogram the ECU.
    3. Rick is correct that you will not get the Alarm to work by changing the setting in the Body Customization settings.
    4. The alarm kit is cheep less than a hundred bucks. I didn't pay full price so I can't tell you for sure.
    5 I hope all of you can install your own alarms now.

    This little post has taken a couple hours. I know there is something I have forgot to tell you and for that I am sorry. Fire away ?????
     
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    Ok, I am confused. Kyle, besides GBS, what are you adding/doing to enable factory alarm?

    When you said 'yes it can', who's question where you answering? Rick's?

    Is there actually 2 part numbers for the body ECU on the US prius?

    Rick, I was just joking with you. I still respect you.
     
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    I knew Kyle would correct me. Is it the TVIP V2(GBS add on) instructions in TIS Installation instructions? So with out this kit,you don't have alarm. And need this kit to have alarm? But you need to use scan tool to turn on GBS? Thanks Kyle :D
     
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    But GBS is an option, other than the alarm. I have the alarm, even set it to passive, but I don't believe I have GBS.
     
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    I'm confused too. When Kyle said, "yes you can," I thought he meant, "Yes, you can turn on the alarm without installing the extra siren/horn."

    But later he says, "Rick is right, you can't turn on the alarm."

    But if the alarm system doesn't come with any ECU modification, what's missing now?
     
  20. Kyle Pehrson

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    Dan I haven't installed one w/o GB I will have to find out and Post it tomorrow.