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Thunderstorms+prius...help me

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by priusnve, Jul 13, 2008.

  1. priusnve

    priusnve Junior Member

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    This weekend after a thunderstorm my prius had several warning lights and wouldnt start, has anyone else experience these problems...may have been light by lightning!
     
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    I wouldn't think that a nearby lighting strike would harm the Prius since it, like all cars, would essentially act as a large Faraday cage that is additionally insulated from the ground by the tires. True, a large electromagnetic pulse can mess up computer equipment, but if the car is off at the time there shouldn't be an issue with that either. The only other thing to be concerned of would be heat damage from a lighting strike that's too near by. All of these would be issues with any car in/near a lighting strike regardless of make and model. However, the actual components vary from vehicle to vehicle.

    If you can share with us the specific warning lights and any messages you're getting, that may help some of the technical gurus on here to solve your problems. Of course the best advice anyone can give you is call a tow truck to take it to a reputable mechanic to take a look.

    Good luck.
     
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    Maybe you shuold have installed a surge protector or I hear TECO sells zap caps for your house meter and now offers something similar for the Prius.....:D
     
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    One time during a thunderstorm, this loud booming thunder made my car's alarm go off. Poor thing was frightened, but I consoled it :D.
     
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    Thank you for your reply. The instrument panel warnings were: Master warning light,hybrid system warning light, malfunction indicator lamp, and vsc light. There may have been more, but was so distressed, (love my prius) can't remember.

    Did have AAA tow her to the toyota dealer, which was a learning experience for the wrecker driver and myself. Fortunately the owners manual is detailed in this area.

    Only had her two months, but it was an instant bonding. Hope this is under warrenty and she can come home asap!
     
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    If not covered by warranty contact your insurance company.

    Rod
     
  8. JamesWyatt

    JamesWyatt Señior Member

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    You know I've also heard that if a plane flies directly over your Prius the vehicle will stall out. Also if the Earth's magnet field is having a bad day the Prius can't drive due north without throwing warning lights.
     
  9. Rokeby

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    priusnve,

    statistically speaking, a direct lightening strike is highly improbable.
    Nonetheless, it does happen. I've seen some weird stuff on near strikes.
    (But that's another story.)

    It looks like early opinion here is evenly divided on the veracity of your
    claim. So, like it or not, if you're really looking for help, its up to you to
    provide some more hard data on the incident.

    You could start with:
    * Was the car garaged, or out in the open?
    * Was the car running or shut down?
    * If outside, was it near/under a tree or other tall/metallic object?
    * Was there any evidence of a nearby strike? Is so, what?
    * Did you inspect the outside of the car? If so, anything found?
    * Other than the warning lights, did any electronics work; radio, GPS, int lights, etc?
    * Did you check under the hood?
    * Were there any unusual smells; under the hood, inside the car?

    [Edit: Oops! Almost forgot, Welcome to PriusChat.]
     
  10. efusco

    efusco Moderator Emeritus
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    I think there are a lot of things that are more likely causes than a lightning strike...even rain seeping under the hood would come first.

    But you never know, let us know what the service folks find.
     
  11. JamesWyatt

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    Having posted in an off road forum for over 4 years before coming here, you learn to spot what I call "drunk troll postings" a mile away. There is a difference between bad English and buzzed/drunk English. It's subtle but recognizable with practice. Usually it's someone simply looking for entertainment rather than someone posting from malice. Many times it's one of your own forum members just trying to stir up the pot.
     
  12. priusnve

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    Hello Rokeby,

    The car was turned off and parked out in the open in the drive way. A very tall pine tree 10 feet away took a direct hit. The lightning ran two directions through the roots. One direction was toward my prius, but the ditch created by the lightening stopped at the pavement. The other line of lightening busted a water pipe.

    The prius was covered with pine bark, but no evidence of a direct hit.

    Just tried to turn her on and drive her. She operated normally to the end of the drive and all the waring lights came on, could fell her lose power and she shut down. Did not even think about trying the lights or radio. or looking under the hood. There was no unusual smell.

    She is at the toyota dealer now, so can't answer all these well thought out question.

    Thank you for your response!
     
  13. Rokeby

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    priusnve,

    Woof! Now that's quite a story! It is a good thing that you've taken the time
    to come-back on the questions so quickly.

    So here's the deal. When it comes to things electrical/electronic, I'm nearly
    clueless. My purpose has been to give you the opportunity to get pointed in
    the right direction.

    There are many folks here who are true experts, not just on the Prius, but
    many other technical subjects. Now, in the six months that I've been on this
    forum, I haven't seen any other lightening issues, so I can't say we have any
    lightening experts. Things could get a litttle testy -- experts don't always
    agree -- but don't loose your cool.

    It would be best to remember that there are some folks who are still
    wondering if you are up to no good. Almost without exception, folks here will
    help you if they believe you're being straight with them.

    For your part, the best info you can provide is the code numbers that the
    Toyota techs will extract from the car. Sometimes they can be rather
    difficult in providing all the codes that were "thrown." Don't be put off. Ask
    to see the print outs, ask for a copy of the print outs. Demand to see the
    Service Manager if necessary,

    When you get the codes, post 'em here, and with luck the really smart folks
    will offer their opinions.
     
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    Roxeby,

    appreciate the info ..knowledge is power...This will help me appear to be somewhat informed when I speak with the service department. As a female it is sometimes hard to be taken seroius in this type of situation.

    I will get the requested information and would love the opinion of others. This chat is a first for me. Have been reading this site and gaining useful info.

    Hope there is a quick fix...really love driving my prius.

    Thanks
     
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    Yikes!

    If I had to guess, I bet one of two things happened:

    Most Likely - The computers got temporarily scrambled because of the very high electromagnetic field that would result from such a nearby lightning strike. The fix for this would be to disconnect the 12 Volt battery for a while, let things reset and go back to the "powered off - need to reboot" state.

    Somewhat less likely - Something got fried because of the strong electromagnetic field.

    If you take the car in and don't say anything about nearby lightning, then they'll probably fix it by replacing (lots of electronic) parts and scratch their heads wondering what the hell happened.

    If you take the car in and tell them about the nearby lightning, your insurance company will have to pay out on the comprehensive part of your policy.

    If the problem is only needing to reset the computers, you'll be back on the road in a day. If it's catastrophic electronic system damage, it will take a bit longer. (It is not inconceivable for them to total the car).

    (oh, I'm a PhD in electrical engineering, and I work in the digital electronics business in case you're wondering why what I say might matter. Not that it will...)
     
  17. priusnve

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    The toyota dealer computer codes say the cause of the shut down was I ran out of gas. I put 6.5651 gallons in on Thur. and have driven 199 miles according to the odomoter and the second screen. There is at least a half tank of gas in the car. The fuel gage currently is flashing off and on with all pips. The dealer said there is no way to check the tank to see if there is gas because of the bladder.
    Here are the computer codes that they reluctantly gave me.
    B1200body ECU stop
    B1207 smart ECU stop
    B1217 HV system low
    C1259 HV sys regenerative malfunction
    C1310 HV sys regenerative malfunction
    L10100 lost comm.
    P3000 HV Batt malf.
    The Toyota dealer is waiting to hear from Toyota and they will let me know thier findings.

    They have hybrids come in all the time and 9 out of 10 times it is a out of gas problem.

    Any suggestions on how I should proceed would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
  18. PriuStorm

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    To check if there's gas in the tank, can't they just put a hose in there and see if they can siphon some out?
     
  19. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    I think that it is not easy to siphon fuel out. An easy alternative is to fill the tank and see how many gallons are required...
     
  20. Rokeby

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    priusnve,

    Well done. Well done, indeed! All too often, posters with problems fail to
    come-back with the codes. But you did it. Who can say you're out to cause
    trouble now?

    Now the hard part comes... the waiting. Be patient, folks will swing by, go
    off to do some research on your codes, and then get back.

    The out of gas thing seems more than a little strange. Maybe they made this
    up just to put you on the defensive, or to gain a little time to try to figure
    out what's really the problem.