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Edible Estates. Someone had the same idea as me.

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by Godiva, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. Godiva

    Godiva AmeriKan Citizen

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    I have a paper cutter. We don't use those guillotine paper cutting cleavers that will take your hand off any more. We use rotary cutters now. They make small ones for photos and scrapbooking all the up to really big ones. I ahve a medium size one that will work well for making newspaper squares. YOu can accurately cut several layers of paper with a rotary. I think I'm going ot try the paper pot thing.

     
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    cool...what a rotary look like? (out of school like forever...heck, electric typewriters were new back then!!) because of child, i have one of those ones with straight edge. and cutter. line up pic, slide cutter across it.

    later, i did take the time to look at box B...since it uses a whole sheet, cutting would not be necessary, but i guess one would want both sizes
     
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    Here's a link to an effort within one Boulder, CO community to expand front-yard gardening, with pictures. http://www.communityrootsboulder.com/

    As for me, I own a condo with two balconies, no yard. So I grow everything in pots (which I also had to do when living in MA so I could locate plants in a sunny area). I've found that I'm not limited to the type of tomato--have grown small and large varieties, but I also typically keep the tomatoes staked with bamboo tee pees and prune so I only have one main vine: Pruning Tomatoes - Fine Gardening Article
     
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    That's it. If you can get a peak underneath you'll see there is a round blade like a pizza cutter in that black box you're sliding across. It's like a rotary cutter you use for fabric only all contained to prevent slicing off your fingers.

    Mine is called the Susis Rollschneiger, rotary cutter, Coupeuse a Rouleaux. Mod. 191, It's a 14 inch. Plenty big enough for any project. If I want bigger newspaper, I'll just fold it before I cut it.

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    Very nice.

    I like the idea of both edible estates and community gardens. Community Gardens for those that don't have access to yards and encouraging homeowners to ditch the grass. I think as produce gets more expensive edible estates will catch on. If only ONE person does it and other see it, there's the seed that's planted. Someone else will get the idea and you'll see more and more. This happened when I painted and when I put up my brick wall with decorative iron and then my fountain and brick pathways. Everytime I did something, I noticed a few other houses started a project of their own.

    I put up PV a year ago. Haven't notice anyone else. Of course that is a very expensive upgrade for most of the homeowners in my neighborhood. But I'll keep my eye out.

    I'm going to plant the front central patch this winter with cold crops. Then I'll keep an eye out in the neighborhood to see if anyone else start a front yard garden. Most have fences so pilfering will be minimal.
     
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    Be careful though . . . a few of my colleagues went in with their neighbors and planted veggies in the area between the sidewalk and street. Most of their neighbors really like it, but one reported them to the city and they got in trouble for doing this within the easement. At issue were the poles and fences they put in--blocking access if the city needed to access that area. The story made it to the newspaper, and I think they're still hashing it out with the city.
     
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    I would never use the easement. In my neighborhood the easement is considered public property. If you plant flowers, they'll pick them. If you plant fruit or vegetables, they'll take them.
     
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    ok. exactly what i have then... maybe diff model...

    i really want to do this hanging pot thing now that i know the yield is so awesome. but one concern i have, the sun sets in the front. we have no privacy or anything to hang on the front. so does this leave me out since my porch only gets morning sun for the most part?...
     
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    Not sure. You'd have to give it a try. If you have railings on either porch, there are also special window boxes and brackets made specially for railings. I don't have railings so I can only do hanging baskets, pots or just stick it in the ground.

    Can you put pots instead of hanging baskets on the front? That would double your options.
     
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    I found a related organization that compliments Edible Estates nicely. It's called Slow Food. It advocates savoring the flavor of food by growing your own, especially heirloom varieties. It's called Slow Food as an opposite to Fast Food (and convenience foods) that are bland, unhealthy, etc. They have chapters in many countries. In Italy they have school gardens in 130 schools. They also encourage regional ethnic recipes for regional produce. They also have an "Edible Estates" program. There is an article on a planting blitz in Australia where participants come together to turn someone's yard into a garden. I think participants do a few and then they can have their own yard done.
     
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    I've decided to hang my planters on shepherds hooks so that I can move them around if the crop doesn't like the location and so that I don't have to worry about locating studs. I going to start with one container and see how it goes. If the crop seems to like the amount of sun and location, I'm going to expand this next year. I can easily fit at least twelve hanging baskets in this area.

    Any recommendations for a crop that'll like starting from seed this late in the year? Is broccoli or cabbage a good choice?
     
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    Arugula has a pretty quick maturation cycle. Might be worth a punt.
     
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    How about lettuce? Be careful with the shepherd's hooks. They may not be strong enough.

    Whatever you start, you might be able to bring it inside and put it in a sunny window.

    I have very little sun here and have to use pots.
     
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    I have two pergolas, one in the front and one in the back. The back one used to have bougainvilla, but that's been removed. I was going to plant wisteria on both, because I love the look of wisteria. But it is invasive. Then I thought climbing roses.

    I've decided to plant grapes instead.

    I bought a Thompsen Seedless and a Black Monukka today. I think the Black Monukka will bear OK. My Dad hasn't had much success with Thompsen Seedless. I have less humidity and a little more heat during the day and a little colder at night then he does. Funny, I'm only 15 min. away but I'm a slightly different microclimate.

    Haven't decided which one to plant in the front. I'm thinking the Thompsen. That way if it doesn't bear, I'm not so dissapointed. It will still be lush and pretty.
     
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    My parent's planted Claret grapes last summer and they're doing quite well in their second season here in CO. They are producing a few grapes, but I think it may take another season or two before they come into their own. Good luck with it.
     
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    Found this patio garden thing that allows growing lettuce on top and tomatoes hanging underneath.

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    that's a crackin' setup. It'd work great for folks with really limited space.
     
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    It's pretty late in the season to start much now, and you're almost better off planning for next year at this point. Not to put a damper on what's left of summer, but the first frost in your area is probably less than a couple of months away. Maybe try something like winter kale, or some of the tougher herbs, such as oregano. You could start some indoor seedlings in early Spring, and be all ready to go by April. Some sort of cold frame once they're outside will protect your plants from the wind and overnight lows.
     
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    I don't know about your area, but I am getting ready to plant peas in a few weeks. Last year I planted them in fall and had some peas around December, I think. Then I forgot about them over January-Februaryish. When I walked around the garden again in early spring, the peas had continued working all winter and were laden with pods! They continued flowering and producing pod pretty much until May (much to my delight).

    We have very light frost here... I think the lowest we had over winter last year was 29 degrees, and the peas didn't mind that. So, depending when your frost settles in for good, you may have luck with some peas and maybe some other 'cold' crops, like broccoli, cabbage, beets, turnips, chard, kale, etc.