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This is America. We don't jail journalists here.

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by PriuStorm, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    So much for freedom of the press. What do they think this is, a democracy?
     
  2. Zythryn

    Zythryn Senior Member

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    So in a democracy is the press allowed to break laws with impunity?
    Where do I sign up? ;)
     
  3. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    What laws did they break? They were filming a demonstration. When the police came in swinging clubs, they filmed the police. When the police roughed up and arrested two reporters for taking pictures, the reporters' supervisor informed the police that the reporters had a right to be there doing their job, and she was roughed up and arrested. All of them had their press credentials taken from them by a person who refused to identify himself and refused to give them a receipt for their property. When the supervising reporter asked a police officer to give a statement that their property had been taken, he refused.

    And then, having been roughed up and bloodied for doing their legal job, they were apparently released without charges.

    If they had broken a law, why were they not charged with a crime? These reporters apparently had not broken any law! The authorities just didn't want press coverage of a demonstration, or the brutal methods the police chose to use to break up a legal demonstration.
     
  4. Zythryn

    Zythryn Senior Member

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    That is an interesting story. Can you post where it came from?
    The video shows a reporter pushing past an officer. The officer tells her to get back or she will be arrested.
    She doesn't, continues pushing and gets escorted back to a truck by the officer.
    Then, someone starts up a chant (instigating a riot??). I am not sure if that was the person taking the video or someone connected to the reporter, or both.
    She gets handcuffed and detained.
     
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    Did you watch the video? Did you read the original post? It's being ignored by the MSM. Just because the MSM doesn't report the story doesn't mean it didn't happen. Now, if your interpretation of the events is that she was in the wrong, even though in the tape we do not hear her being requested to step back, nor in the other video do we see the camera person get the chance to obey any command whatsoever before being tackled to the ground, then that's your opinion and your view. But the tapes don't lie.
     
  7. KK6PD

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    Of course MSNBC is ignoring it, its their reporter screwing up and getting nailed for it!! They are really big on pointing out FOX's and CNN's screw ups, but point a finger at themselves, Yeah, right after Keith Olberman, barely a 2nd rate Sportscaster when he was at CH 2 in Los Angeles, gets his size 11's out of his mouth!!! You need to see the whole tape, not the parts that you like!!! Your right tapes don't lie, especially when you watch all of it!!!

    Like I said before, PRESS PASSES ARE A PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT!!

    You abuse it you loose it!

    73 de Pat KK6PD
     
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    There may be a misunderstanding here.
    I was referring to this story by daniel:
    From the video I did not see this, so I am guessing it is from a different video and was asking for a link to it.
    And if you listen to the video I saw, you can make out the officer instructing the reporter to step back. Which they don't...
     
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    Prius storm, I appologize, I see where daniels story came from now. It was part of the longer video.
    That being said, this is propoganda, not reporting.
    They didn't hint at, much less report:
    What the police were doing, their was a large group of organized police. Why target that are, what were the protesters in the area protesting (more specific and accurate than the stated "protesting the RNC").
    The entire interview was full of lies. At one point Amy is saying "I walked up to demand to speak with the officer in charge and was immediately arrested" while at the SAME TIME they are showing their own video which clearly shows her charging up to officers with her request. You see the officer pointing away from the area and saying something (in another video you could make out 'back away' I will see if I can find it) twice. He then tries to lead her away, she refuses and tries to get past the officer. THAT is when she is escorted back and handcuffed. Not "immediately"
    The story of the original reporter and cameraman give different impressions of the same event ('I tried to back up' vs. 'Nicolle bravely continued reporting...') The whole thing is full of things like that.
    Yes, I want to see this issue reported on and investigated. No, I won't condem the police until I see more data.
     
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    Of course I was being a little sarcastic, but good find BF. The article says the police told the reporter the sidewalk is "owned" by the hotel. Shockingly inaccurate, at least for the six feet of sidewalk adjoining the road. This is a great case for false arrest, no matter what complaint was filed by the hotel. Amazing there's no lib outrage over this action sine the reporter was apparently checking rich Dem donors. hmmmmm.
     
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    Amy Goodman has a greater understanding of the election issues than both Obama & McCain combined.

    The grade-school graduate cops thought they were just picking up some leftover hippie from Chicago, 1968 (which they never heard of anyway).

    Ooops!
     
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    I usually enjoy reading different threads, this one is just like listening to MSNBC. Good reporting but one sided.
     
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    Yeah right, she could be a rocket scientist, she still apparently did not read the back of the Press Credential, or the form she signed to receive it, explaining the terms of use and agreements, and penalties invoked upon screwing up!!!

    Every Event Pass has I have been issued I had to follow the the same rules and regs!!! She pushed too hard, and got popped!!

    OOOPPPSSS!!!!

    Remember a Credential is a privilege, not a right!!

    73 de Pat KK6PD
     
  14. Godiva

    Godiva AmeriKan Citizen

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    What were the terms? "Don't show or say anything negative or disparaging regarding the Republican Party, Convention, Delegates or politicians"?
     
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    Yes, sounds like the "Patriot Act" in action here...and we all know who was responsible for THAT not so democratic legislation...

    Dave :glare:
     
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    I don't remember reading that part of the Patriot Act. Could you help me out and post a reference?

    I seem to remember it it being unlawful to disobey a law enforcement officer long before the Patriot Act.

    Also, I wasn't sure who was responsible for the act so I looked and it passed the Senate with 98 yeas. So it sounds like a lot of people are responsible.