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Microsoft Rant!

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by qbee42, Nov 13, 2008.

  1. KK6PD

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    Way to go Tom!!!!
    Usually there's a work around, it just takes a sharp mind to decipher it!!!

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  2. Unlimited_MPG

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    Wait until he gets the call about it failing b/c of a upgrade instead of a clean install. :eek:
     
  3. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    That's for sure. This woman's computer is pretty much failing from the instant I leave. Some people are amazingly good at breaking computers, and she is one of them. Honestly, she and her husband, they can get an email that says: "Click this link and destroy your computer!" and they will think "Hmmm, I don't know what this is, but I better click on it and find out." I have to build layers of protection to save them from themselves.

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    Was going to suggest this, ran into this issue a few times already and found a SP3 discs floating around. Since the real money is in the license keys i have no problem with a "frankenware"....sounds like a hefty bill to me.
     
  5. Rae Vynn

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    Tom, you done good.

    I have a daughter that is amazingly inept at computers... I don't get it.
    I've twice completely cleaned, vaccinated, and set up her system, and in no time, it's completely stuffed up.
    Seriously, I think it's because she thinks that "Mom" can't possibly know more than some dork her husband shot the s**t with at the bar, who told him something about using some program instead of the one that I installed for her... so, she downloads it, and runs BOTH...

    At least, at work, she's on a Mac, and the IT guy keeps her in line...
     
  6. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Maybe you can put some sort of spell on her computer. Do you know any good ones for warding off evil spirits?

    Tom
     
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    Ahahhaa.... don't tempt me!
    Seriously, though, I've been known to smudge and bless our PCs.
     
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    A bit late but...
    Wouldn't the simplest solution have been to downgrade the system first from SP3 to SP2? In principle, that should be as easy as
    (1) Open the Control Panel
    (2) Open "Add or remove programs"
    (3) Click on XP Service pack 3
    (4) Click on the "remove" button

    or see How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 3 from your computer for more details.

    Anyway, MS's licensing and upgrading strategy is a complete nightmare. I never upgrade an existing system anymore. It's not worth the effort anymore these days.
     
  9. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    I considered that, but the success of removing the service pack varies by how it was installed. I don't have a lot of confidence in their removal programs.

    As it was, once I realized the SP3 was the culprit, it was easier to make the new installation CD than to roll back to SP2, install, and redo SP3. Slipstreaming is pretty easy once you do it the first time.

    Tom
     
  10. TJandGENESIS

    TJandGENESIS Are We Having Fun Yet?

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    I never have had one problem with my low level cost Vista machine. And I'm an Apple guy! But I do think Microsquish is often rotten to the core. Sorry for your woes.
     
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    This can be a frustrating issue with XP and NTFS. I've had similar issues with my work machine at home

    It has two hard drives. Drive C is the boot drive, and is used just to store programs. Drive D is the work drive, has all the data on it

    The Registry can get buggy after awhile. I like to wipe the C drive, then use the XP Pro install disk to repartition (Simple partition) and reformat the C drive. Usually, once everything is running again, it will have issues opening some files on D drive: access is denied. Especially files that were created when I was logged in as an Administrator

    You have to "force" ownership of the files and folders. This is the latest version of how to do so. Hope it helps

    How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP

    I've also had issues with portable hard drives. I'll encrypt the files with the same user and password that I use at work. I'll get home, mount the drive, and access is denied even though the user id and login is the same on my home computer. I have to force ownership. Note this doesn't happen all the time, it's just random enough to be a royal PITA
     
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    We have tried to roll back or uninstall Service Packs at work. Overall, this is a highly risky procedure, and it usually leaves the machine very unstable.

    I agree that upgrades are not worth the effort. A clean install, then application of necessary Service Packs, is the proper way to handle this. We have pretty tight policies at work regarding backing up files.

    If a user is too lazy or careless to properly back up their files, they can expect to go into work one morning to a freshly-installed XP Pro. If their critical work files were not backed up - TFB
     
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    Tom

    Unless this person has saved your life - and your children - numerous times, this is simply not worth it. Walk away before you totally lose your grip on reality

    jay
     
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    There's one sure fire cure for computer "breakers" and that's a good imaging program and copying the images to an external drive. That way when you get the call that the machine is broken again, you do an image restore from the external drive and it all goes back to the prior working state. If they don't backup their data between images that's too bad for them. Sure beats trying to fix a mucked up system that you have no idea what's been done to it. Also this is a perfect fix for any viruses or malware that's been picked up via the net. It all goes away with the restore. Acronis True image is worth its weight in gold IMHO.