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Natural Gas Civic Paired with Home Refueling

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by jtowndog, Apr 22, 2005.

  1. jtowndog

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    Say Goodbye to the Gasoline Pump: California Consumers Can Now Get a Full Service Fill at Home

    American Honda Motor Co., Inc., announced today that it has begun limited retail sales in California of its natural gas-powered Civic GX sedan paired with a revolutionary new home-refueling appliance called Phill giving California consumers the opportunity to say "goodbye" to gasoline.

    More:
    http://hondanews.com/CatID1002?mid=2005042...=asc&archives=t

    For more information or downloadable high resolution images of the Honda Civic GX visit:
    http://www.hondanews.com.

    Additional information on Phill and environmentally friendly cars can be found at:
    http://www.fuelmaker.com and http://www.epa.gov.

    ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Video, hard copy requests, contact information and more available at:
    http://www.prnewswire.com/broadcast/21451/press.shtml

    VIDEO PROVIDED BY: American Honda Motor Co., Inc.

    SOURCE American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
     
    #1 jtowndog, Apr 22, 2005
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    This is a terrible idea.
    It's one thing to run out of oil and have to switch the entire world's transportation requirements over to EV, Hydrogen, or biodeisel. It's a whole other problem to replace natural gas as a heating source to millions upon millions of homes. Natural gas is only 10 - 20 years behind oil in terms of peaking. Switching vehicles to natural gas will speed that up, and they'll both be running out at the same time. Then what? electrical heating? Wood burning?
     
    #2 Darwood, Apr 22, 2005
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darwood\";p=\"83370)</div>
    Actually, it's a semi-fantastic idea. Natural gas can be produced by other energy sources (coal, hydrogen, etc), and combined with nuclear power could be a good start towards a more energy independent future.
     
    #3 Jonnycat26, Apr 22, 2005
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    Huh?
    It is my understanding that we need massive amounts of electricity or Natural gas to produce hydrogen. Why would you then use the hydrogen to produce natural gas? Why not just use the hydrogen or electricity as is? And coal is dirty and finite. Besides, we'll need that coal for electricity as the oil runs out, and later as the natural gas runs out. (in addition to massive amounts of renewables and nuclear).
     
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  5. Frank Hudon

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    are there readily available NG refueling stations all over the state or is this another car with limited range and no refueling stations for use other than short distances. If your a pizza delivery person or some other type of short range user it's a possible option. We had it on our delivery truck and used it for about 15 months before converting it to propane as it's readily available all over the province. The other thing we noticed was a significant drop in power compared to propane.
     
    #5 Frank Hudon, Apr 22, 2005
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    The car has around a 300 mile range, from what I've seen.

    Here in NJ, natural gas cars are fairly popular. I see a lot of cars with the CNG stickers on the back (converted natural gas).
     
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    Whoops, my bad. :(


    It'd be cool if they slapped IMA on one of those things... IMA + CNG = Ultimate Hybrid?
     
    #8 Jonnycat26, Apr 22, 2005
  9. DonDNH

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    The Civic GX has been available for a couple of years.
     
    #9 DonDNH, Apr 22, 2005
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    Not the natural gas-powered version with the home refueling kit.
     
    #10 IsrAmeriPrius, Apr 22, 2005
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    Yes, the GX is the Natural Gas version; it has been available for about 6 or 7 years. What's new is the home refueling station targetted at the individual sale rather than fleet customers.
     
    #11 DonDNH, Apr 25, 2005
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