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What services you need and what you don't

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by galaxee, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. gatewaygal

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    Re: What services you need and what you don't

    Thanks for all the information, particularly about not using fuel additives such as fuel injector cleaners. I wondered about that since I just had the throttle body cleaned on my 2000 Camry. I was thinking it might be good to use on my 2008 Prius that has about 13,000 miles. You probably saved me a lot of grief.

    Thanks,

    DJL
     
  2. jayman

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    Re: What services you need and what you don't

    Remember that the North American market Prius has rear drum brakes
     
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    Mine was purchased in Honolulu Hawaii. Thanks for the tip though.
     
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    The primary difference between Prius sold by Servco Pacific and Prius distributed by TMS USA is that nav is not available in Hawaii. Therefore option packages will also vary.
     
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    The Hawaii market Prius has rear disk??
     
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    No, drum brakes like NA and JDM Prius.
     
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    So how does having Drum Brakes affect what should be done at the 15K Service? And should it be expensive? :(
     
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    No, it shouldn't. At most, you may need the cable adjusted, but only if it has slack. This shouldn't be a $200 job. My dealership charged $16 to adjust the parking brake
     
  9. rusty houndog

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    Actually, put a few of those $16s together and buy a Bentley Prius manual. Then you get to do all kinds of things for very cheap or zero cost.
    ;)
     
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    I can get an entire year of All Data DIY subscription for under $16 per vehicle. This includes all current TSB's
     
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    120k service

    I am getting ready to take my 2004 Pruis in for 120k service. Should I do anything other than what the book calls for?
     
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    If the inverter and engine coolants were not changed at 100K miles, this should definitely be done now.

    If the transaxle fluid had not previously been changed, that should be done now.
     
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    Re: What services you need and what you don't

    In summary, I have an 04 Prius that is fast approaching 100k. I haven't done anything but routine oil changes. Does my list seem to wrap up what I need to do maintenance-wise? Should this be under $500? :cheer2:

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    1)Brake Flush

    2) Clean/adjust rear brakes

    3) Change transaxle fluid

    4) Engine and inverter fluid

    5) EFI or fuel injector cleaning

    6) Three-part service, fuel induction service, throttle plate cleaning
    these are all different names for essentially the same service. (the "three part" also includes a top engine cleaner aka fuel induction service and fuel additive.)

    7) PCV valve replacement

    8) Alignment

    9) Air and Cabin Filters
     
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    Such weird suggestions! 1 and 2 you do when they need it, like never. 5 and 6 are really strange, like not something for a Prius. I really do not understand; does a Prius have a PCV valve somewhere? Alignment is always good when you need it and cabin air filters whenever you notice the crud building up faster than usual.

    Doesn't your owner's manual have something to say about services? Do you buy your gasoline from some other country where detergents aren't added so it messes with injectors and the throttle plate? Fuel additives; you must be thinking of some GM, Ford, or Chrysler vehicle.
    The Prius don't need no stinklin' additives.

    Read This:
    http://priuschat.com/forums/care-ma...70-what-services-you-need-what-you-don-t.html
     
  15. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

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    Re: What services you need and what you don't

    don't bother unless you've got misfire issues. this isn't really a "routine" thing- and can be more trouble than it's worth.

    JUST the throttle plate. the other stuff, as i was trying to point out, is essentially wasting your money.
     
  16. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

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    Re: What services you need and what you don't

    yep!
    http://priuschat.com/forums/knowledge-base-articles-discussion/56852-pcv-replacement-how-photos.html

    bigbearballs was listing off things i mentioned might be a good idea on higher-mileage cars, but didn't see that i had said some of those things or some of the parts of the services that they try to sell are a waste of your money and are still not necessary under all circumstances.
     
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    Edited List

    This is it? Wow!

    After your helpful posts, this is what I'm down to. Does this sound right now?

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    3) Change transaxle fluid

    4) Engine and inverter fluid

    6) Throttle plate cleaning

    8) Alignment

    9) Air and Cabin Filters
     
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    Re: What services you need and what you don't

    I love this forum. Just to think if i had to rely on what the dealer advises, how much money would be wasted.

    And to think bigbearballs's prius is running well at 100K on just periodic oil changes--as a new Prius owner, this is really good news to me, looking into the future. Mine is a pre-owned 2007 that i just got this year, and I have been helped so much by these forums, already saved about $250 on my 30K maintenance thanks to this thread. So impressed that a Prius with 100K has been fine with just oil changes.

    I plan to do the stuff in the Toyota prius owner's guide maintenance schedule, but most of that is just inspections--and probably still more than what's needed.

    bigbearballs--do you not need to get tires rotated every 5K if the car is driving ok? did you replace tires from time to time?
     
  19. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

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    Re: Edited List

    you do want to do the PCV and the rear brake clean/adjust, especially if you haven't adjusted the rear brakes in 100k miles. brake flush is on you- the car is 5 years old, it could wait.
     
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  20. bigbearballs

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    Re: What services you need and what you don't

    We bought the car with 80k on it and it had no service records from Toyota, so I assume it's only had oil changes. We haven't rotated the tires since we've had it (about 15k) and it's driving like a gem. We really love this car and hope it goes to 200k. I have a Honda Civic Hybrid that has 92k on it and it needs a new hybrid battery already ($3100 replacement). I wish we had two Prius's.