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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by joerdie, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. RobH

    RobH Senior Member

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    The implantable RFID tags are designed for use under the skin. While few humans have installed them, they are established practice for pets. The guy who runs the website that I mentioned above actually injected one himself. It's probably no worse than all the body piercing than young people do today.

    Security should not be a problem. While the pet ID tags are not secure, there are encrypted versions that are at least as safe as a keyfob.
     
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    Not really... Like I said, RFID's are not powered, they do not contain any sort of battery or power supplying device. The RFID Scanner (if I understand how RFID works) broadcasts radio frequencies and I imagine the RFID tag oscillates at a very specific frequency and is able to bounce back to the scanner and will likely only work at a very short distance unless you're using extremely high powered equipment, which nobody sitting on a bench with a newspaper would be capable of without being quite obvious. Even then, they'd only know the frequency of the tag, which, if they could duplicate would allow them access to your car (assuming that they knew you used RFID to gain access to your car, otherwise they wouldn't know what to do with it). RFID only gives a number... that number matches information stored in a database, that specific number would have to be searched for in the specific database that stores the info for that ID tag for any actually useful information can be obtained. For example, the RFID tags in dogs when read by a scanner only appear on the scanner as a number. Someone then has to go on the internet to the most commonly used databases of RFID tags and search by that number, only when you find the database that pulls up info for the RFID number you have will you actually have any useful info at all.

    I've also installed one of these and I love it! No more getting locked out of the house (and this one does not rely on batteries):http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/B000IBOPAW?tag=priuschatcom-20
     
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    So, as I have been looking into this more, the issue that I am finding has nothing to do with the implant. It's all about conversion of the car. I can't seem to find anyone that can convert the car from SKS to rfid. The few companies that were mentioned above stated (in e-mails) that they would not do the conversion. Any ideas?
     
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    Hmmm....I think that there are companies that have already solved this very problem. One company's name is Levi, another is Wrangler, another is Dockers..... the name of that marvelous technology: "pants pockets".

    My SKS just stays in my pocket along with other keys; other pockets hold my wallet, my Swiss Army knife, etc.. Who knew that pockets could be so useful!!

    I walk up to the car and it unlocks. I get in and drive with my key still in my pocket. I get out and push the lock button and walk away. It couldn't be simpler. The SKS stays in my pocket at all times.

    Now granted, if someone needed to dress in spandex all the time, having useful pockets could indeed be an issue. Other than that, I don't see the point of getting an implant. What would you ever do if you had to borrow someone else's car, or a rental? Then you'd have to learn how to carry a key all over again!
     
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    Yeah, but what are you going to do when you get the urge to drive around naked? What then?
     
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    Activate the FOB hanger???????
     
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    It would be a real bummer to get stuck in Sloboviastan unable to get through the airport because your implant triggers the contraband detector and is followed by the (unsuccessful) cavity search.
     
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    The easy interface to SKS is to use a keyfob. When your RFID system detects you, it simply enables power to an embedded SKS keyfob.

    Well, maybe not so simple. SKS has sensors in both front doors, the console, and the tailgate. SKS knows where the keyfob is, and behaves differently based on that location. If you're outside the car, then SKS enables lock/unlock of the door. If you're inside the car, the door lock is not enabled, but the Power button is.

    The number of keyfobs is limited to 5, so you will really have to figure out how to make one keyfob act as if it is in multiple locations. Put the keyfob inside a metal box with an SKS sensor that you switch to the wiring for the various detection locations.

    Sounds like a rather extensive custom project.