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Sam's Club Photo Rant

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by qbee42, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. jayman

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    Which only proves that a little technology - in the hands of simpletons - is a BAD thing
     
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    Tom

    Oh cah-rist, I wouldn't even bother with the drive anymore. Unless you're a public figure there, intimately involved (Well, not THAT way, but you know what I mean) in local politics, who could give one rat's a*** what the locals think?

    Remember one thing: the locals could care less if it drives you and your missus insane dealing with them. They may even get off on it!

    So, stick with that mail order routine. Maybe consider a move somewhere a bit more sane (IF I had been given that bill for sewer/water improvement, I would have used a comment that rhymes with Duck Shoe, thrown a match to the house, and walked away)

    So don't feel guilty about not frequenting local stores

    jay
     
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    Copyright laws were miodified several years ago to say that anyone who produces a copyrightable product owns the copyright. For instance, if I write a personal letter to our son, that copyright belongs to me. But here's the catch -- I can't do anything about it if someone takes my letter and misuses it in some fashion. I must have filed with the federal copyright office in order to be protected legally; I must have proof (through the federal copyright filing) that I created the letter. Now, Sam's/Walmart lawyers undoubtedly are knowledgeable, but I would think that challenging them with what I have noted might return dividends. Probably won't help with the photo drone, which is where the issue lies. And it won't help get Tom's wife's pictures on the walls in a timely fashion. But it's something to remember.
     
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    while that may be true for print media it is not true for photography. The act of taking a photo gives the creator immediate copyright. You can bolser your proof of copyright ownership by filing formally for it, but any photo I take is copyrighted and anyone who reproduces it without my permission is in violation of copyright law.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Evan, this is my understanding for all copyrights. Copyright enforcement always remains the burden of the copyright holder. Registering a copyright makes it easier to prove that it is yours, but it is not required.

    Trademarks are a different issue. You have to use trademarks and actively defend them.

    Patents require application and approval.

    Tom
     
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    As Efusco said, this is also untrue for graphic art.
    Again, the copyright holder makes it easier to prove that they are the original producer of the art, but it is not necessary. You can prove it to a court through other documentation, negatives, even sworn testemony of others.
    You are correct that the original creator bears the burden of proof, but that burden is no where near the burden of proof we normally think of when we look at criminal cases.
     
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    :frusty:

    My head hurts.

    Can't we talk about dating, gravity, vegan "catnip," or sheep instead?
     
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    How about robots? Anybody wanna talk about robots instead?
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Little cute fuzzy sheep robots. That comment will get Mr. Sparks into this thread.

    Tom
     
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    I thought we were talking about robots - the kind that work at Sam's Club or K-mart. They are slowly being replaced by the machines that they originally were programmed to operate.
     
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    NOW you're talking!
     
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    As an interesting aside, whenever possible, I always use the "self service" line at a big box store. For some reason, it's rarely busy at all, maybe folks fear the technology

    I really like being able to quickly get what I need, zip through the self-checkout, and get the hell out of there.

    Did I mention I really HATE shopping?
     
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    Yes, but unfortunately, some of the overconfident folks are starting to use them and clogging up the works when they cannot follow the procedure.

    I think this is a man thing. My GF used to spend 3 hours in Mervyn's without actually buying anything (they filed for bankruptcy a few months ago, I wonder if my GF was partially responsible?). I go into JC Penney to buy a pair of pants every 5 years or so, I walk directly to the shelf, find the correct size (the same as last time) carry them to the cashier, pay, and I'm out in 10 min tops.
     
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    I wish a trap door would open up and SPLASH drop them into the tank with the sharks. I've only witnessed the overconfident/clueless folks once so far: they sat there scratching their head until the nice assistant came over. They forgot to touch the screen "Touch here to start"

    Oy

    I might "browse" a sporting goods store, a surplus parts warehouse like Princess Auto

    PRINCESS AUTO

    maybe rarely a car dealership. But otherwise I'm like you, race in, get what I need, race out.
     
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    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    I used to think I was really smart doing my Christmas shopping that way. I'd phone around, find the stuff I wanted, and ask them to put it on hold for me. Now, I do everything online and have it shipped to work. The stupid thing with that is, I miss all those nights out...um...'shopping.' :redface:
     
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    Aren't they like lemmings, except they run longer, and are even a bigger P.I.T.A. and I ain't talking bread!
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Okay, so this is me "zipping" through the self service line:

    me: <presses start button>

    machine: PING!
    machine: "Please remove unexpected item from the bagging area."

    me: <pressing "I am using my own bag" button>

    machine: .......................................................................
    machine: .......................................................................
    machine: "Please remove unexpected item from the bagging area."

    me: <pressing "I am using my own bag button repeatedly.">

    machine: .......................................................................
    machine: "Please remove unexpected item from the bagging area."

    me: "Oh for the love of god, why are these things so stupid..."

    operator lady: "That button doesn't work yet."

    me "...that they won't let you use your own bag. Everyone tells you to bring your own bag, and when you try to do the right thing..."

    operator lady: "Let me reset it for you. It doesn't like having your bags on the scale."

    me: "...thanks."
    me: <picks up first item and tries to scan it.>
    me: <fans first item back and forth over scanner, trying every permutation of roll and yaw.>

    machine: "Ping!, please put your item in the bag."

    me: "Christ, give me a second. That's what I'm doing, isn't it."
    me: <now looking at the accumulated dirt and scratches on the scanner window. It looks like a piece of frosted shower glass.>
    me: "No wonder this thing takes forever to scan. Do you ever clean these things?"
    me: <picking up an unmarked bag of red leaf lettuce>
    me: <pressing the "no barcode" button>

    machine: "Please enter the PLU."

    me: "I don't have a PLU." <pressing the no PLU button>

    machine: "Select item from menu."

    me: <pressing 'L' for lettuce><selecting the lettuce icon>

    machine: <displays icons for every imaginable type of lettuce, except red leaf lettuce>

    me: "Oh for the love of god. Why doesn't this thing have red leaf lettuce. They sell the stuff, so why isn't it in their POS system?"
    me: "What the hell, it's not my problem" <selects green leaf lettuce icon>

    machine: "Ping!, please put your item in the bag."

    me: "Jesus, give me a second. Are you in a hurry or something."

    me: <scans tiny container of Blistex which weighs about a 1/4 oz>

    machine: "Ping!, please place your item in the bag."

    me: "The item IS in the bag, you nitwit."

    machine: "Please place your item in the bag."

    me: "Oh for the love of god, why do they insist on weighing something that is too light for their scales. Why don't they exempt these nearly massless items. They could use a high limit on small items, but they lack the resolution for the low end. Weighing is a stupid method of forcing compliance. There must be a better system, but I suppose until we get RFID in every item it's just not going to work."

    Meanwhile, someone like Jayman is standing in line behind me, wishing a trap door would open and drop me out of the way.

    Tom
     
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    Hmmm that has *never* happened to me. I've come to realize that most industrial-quality embedded machines appear to *like* me, perhaps they sense that for many years, I used to lay-on-hands and heal them

    I've only had one glitch that I can recall. I swiped my credit card, and ...

    "Please swipe again"

    Huh. Swiped again

    "Please swipe again"

    Hmmmm. Swiped again

    "Verify card is swiped correctly"

    Hehehe I had the card upside down. My own fault

    Are you absolutely POSITIVE you're not a Malfunction Magnet?

    All kidding aside, the quality of self-checkout aisles depends on large part on the programming that goes into them. GIGO ....
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    True. I just used one at a different grocery store and zipped right through, even with red leaf lettuce.

    Tom
     
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    Or perhaps red leaf lettuce is evil and out to get us. I honestly can't recall ever eating it, how does red leaf lettuce compare to the normal green variety?

    You can tell I'm not quite a master chef ...