Well I've F-ed Up My Prius

hmm. sounds like you may have put a bad mix of speakers in. See.. little things make differences with the speakers.

Some speakers take more power.. this will throw your system off. the range can be a problem.

if i was you, i would put the stock speakers in. save cash.. and have an installer do it. if you do this.. you can then complain that they messed up the car.

here's a pat on the back * pat * * pat *... fix your car. keep the car.. and fix it up later.

 

Remember too that speakers are POLARIZED!

One sure fire way to mess up your sound is to have a bunch of speakers out of phase.

By the way... the idea of someone with the username "V8CobraKid" owning a Prius just causes my brain to lock up.

:mrgreen:

 

well... i drive my prius pretty hard.. hehe.. i think my prius is the test dummy as to what the car can stand when pressed hard.

 

huh... do you have a crossover? maybe that or lack of is screwing you over

 

If it sounds bad you need professional help to set it up. I have not done this in a while but experience and equipment to analyze the out put can be critical. My ears are fried because of too many rock concerts and loud music makes the JBL system adequate for me. Remember Hogdens law Good Judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. Don't get mad get help. There is always someone better than you, find him or her.

 

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I agree. A drop in bass response from before is a sure sign of the speaker leads getting reversed somewhere along the line.

 

i had my front speakers replaced with jbl 608 gti by installers and the system sounds great.
The one thing that really made the difference was replacing factory wires with better ones.

 

Sorry you had so much trouble. I swapped out my stock (non jbl system) speakers with 6.75" Pioneers (TS-A1767). The sound improved alot. Much cleaner sound. (lower lows and higher highs) I would like to put in an amp to boost the power but it's ok for now.

I know about speakers being polarized but I had trouble finding the negative lead on the prius. I tried to check both wires against a spot of un-painted metal but I could not find the negative cable. I ended up trying to hook the speakers up both ways to see which sounded better. I actually couldn't tell a difference (could the prius be so smart that it doesn't matter how you hook them up?).

I did notice that the whole system is 'quieter' now. I have to turn it up to 45 to get it loud (I think it got loud at a lower number before). Maybe an amp would make it sound 'louder'? Is that hard to install?

TimFor.. I would get some help from somebody. I know I had to consult my audio friends when I did my install. I agree it might be good to just take it somewhere and have somone do it. Maybe try different speakers? Lots of factors that could be at play here.

good luck...

-Peter B

 

Most modern audio systems have a floating ground for the speaker outputs, so you won't find continuity comparing either speaker lead to ground.

If you want, I can provide the speaker lead colors and phase.

 

Dan.. that would be great if you get a chance. I guess I've been happy with the sound, but if I have it hooked up backwards I might as well fix it. If only I knew about this board when I did the initial install.

-Peter B

 

Speaker wiring (for JBL)
Pink, pin S15-8: LF+
Violet, Pin S15-19: LF-
Light Green, Pin S15-9: RF+
Blue, Pin S15-20: RF-
Black, Pin S15-4: LR+ (passive crossover for tweeter)
Yellow, Pin S15-13: LR-
Red, Pin S15-5: RR+ (passive crossover for tweeter)
White, Pin S15-14: RR-
Pink, Pin S15-6: TLF+
Violet, Pin S15-17: TLF-
Light Green, Pin S15-7: TRF+
Blue, Pin S15-18: TRF-
Red, Pin S15-3: C+
White, Pin S15-12: C-

Notice, there is duplication of wire colors, so be careful.
For example, the front tweeters and fullrange speakers have the same color code, as does the center speaker with the rear right speaker.

 

As usual, "Ol' Doc Evan" gives sound (pun intended) advice.

 

I'm suspecting you swapped the tweeter leads for the fullrange, and possibly the center for one of the rear speakers. If you swapped the tweeter/fullrange leads, you'd be putting no bass into the front fullrange, and the tweeters would be quite loud, as well as not being able to reproduce the bass they are sent.

 

Yeah, I agree. Just have someone take a look at your install. It's not gonna cost that much.

The system you installed was working fine so it's really limited to the speaker install.

Another thought: Did you run new wires or keep the old ones? If you ran new wires, take a look at the connections. One time, I had a stray stand of wire shorting things out.

As for the damaged tweeter covers, just get online on these sites that that do searches for you at junkyards. You can probably pick up a pair of new tweeter covers really cheap!

Don't bum, tho. It's wasted energy. Just decide on the next step and take it.

The system will work, no worries.

-bob

 

It really sounds like you have at least one or more out of phase. Go over each speaker and dbl check it it only takes 1 speaker to be backwards to make the whole system sound like ukeright: Don't expect to much help from any shops unless you bought your speakers from them. If you bought them online then your on your own :lol: