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2010 Prius versus Ford Fusion Hybrid: My Review

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by mirak, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. mirak

    mirak New Member

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    I have finally compared the 2010 Prius to the 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid. Here are my observations:

    First, it's important to note that the FFH and Prius are generally not in the same class. Technically, that would be the Camry Hybrid, but the FFH blows the Camry Hybrid out of the water. The FFH is cheaper, gets better MPG, and has better features overall.

    But, the top-end Prius V and the FFH are a worthy comparison because they are similar in price (if the FFH's $1700k tax credit is taken into account).

    Exterior: The new Prius certainly looks a little more muscular and less bubble-shaped than the old generation, but I still wouldn't say it's a beautiful car. It's mostly the stubby little front-end of the Prius, viewed head-on, which looks ugly to me. That, and Toyota has expanded the size of it's logo to about 6" across. I found that the Prius looks a little bit smaller and uglier in person than as seen in the promotional photos, kind of like a celebrity.

    The FFH, on the other hand, is a very attractive car. The chrome grill is cool, and rear taillights, of all things, really popped out at me. Both Prius and the FFH offer a "pearl white" luxury finish (for more money). The 17" wheels are different, but I think equally attractive. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but for me...

    FFH wins.

    Interior: The Prius's new eco-friendly plastics on the dash and console felt brittle and cheap. There are some weird buttons in this car, and they're not located in very intuitive places. Rear-visability is very limited by the hatchback design. On the plus-side, the Prius is surprisingly roomy for what appears to be such a small car from the outside. Even with ample front-seat leg room, the leg room in back was very comfortable (I'm 6'1"). Part of this comes from Toyota carving out the backs of the front seats, but I also think they've been able to push the rear seats further back because of the hatchback design.

    The FFH's dash and console felt like much higher quality. Also, the console has a more conventional design. Rear visibility was good. The FFH felt a bit more roomy than the Prius from side to side, but not front to back. Actually, the Prius has a bit more rear leg room than the FFH. Still...

    FFH wins.

    Cargo: FFH has a decent trunk, but it can't match the cargo versatility of the Prius. That's just the benefit of the hatchback design, which Toyota has utilized masterfully. No question...

    Prius wins.

    Instrument Panel: Prius has this new "Multi-Function Display," which holds all the gauges and other info. It's been moved from behind the wheel to the high center of the dash. This puts it more within the line of sight while driving, but it also puts it further away, and the display looked small, cluttered, and monochrome to me.

    The FFH's colorful, customizable, multi-LCD instrument panel is still behind the wheel, but it is night-and-day superior.

    FFH wins.

    Features: Prius has push-button start, SKS entry, LED headlamps, and "Econ," "EV," and "Power" modes to help squeeze out extra MPGs or HPs.

    FFH has a sunroof (can't get that unless you buy the $3500 package on the Prius, and can't get it at all on the model V), backup cam (can't get that on the Prius without paying at least $1k for Nav), Microsoft SYNC (waaay better than Toyota's technology), customizable ambient lighting (kinda cheesy, but still cool), and automatic headlights (yes, the Prius actually doesn't have this). I dearly wish the FFH had some of the Prius's features, especially the various fuel economy modes, but overall...

    FFH wins.

    Mileage: The Prius gets 10 to maybe 15 MPG better than the FFH. Depending on how important this is, it could be the deciding difference between the two cars. I love hybrid technology. I used to think MPG was my top priority. Then I sat in both cars. I thought "I've got to be happy in this car for the next 10 years." You know what? I can have just as much fun getting 40 MPG as I can getting 50 MPG. Heck, I love my Highlander Hybrid and I only get 25 MPG in that. Actually, I think I can have more fun hyper-miling in the FFH because the instrument panel is so much cooler. Still, on an objective basis, there's no question that...

    Prius wins.

    Driving: I'm not a professional driver. Honestly, I thought the cars handled about the same. (Again, this is the "touring" Prius with the 17" wheels - not the 15" wheels which have been criticized). However, I did notice that the FFH had a quieter ride. On that basis...

    FFH wins.

    Safety: 5-star crash tests are all well and good (honestly, I don't know how either rates, but assume they both do well). At the end of the day, the Fusion is a bigger, heavier car. If I had to make a choice between wrecking with my family in a Prius or FFH, there's no question...

    FFH wins.

    Reliability: The big question mark. Both the Prius and FFH are new models, though the Prius has a proven track record in the previous model. Toyota has an excellent reputation. I'd say Ford has a pretty good, and improving reputation. Ford is making great strides, but Toyota is still the safer bet.

    Prius wins.

    Intangibles: This does not impact my decision making - it's just icing on the cake given the decision I've made. The FFH may be manufactured in Mexico, but Ford is still an American company - and I'm proud to support a company that looks like it's got its, ahem, "Stuff" together.

    FFH wins.

    Overall, FFH wins in a landslide. Unless MPG, cargo capacity, or "owning a Prius" are so important that you're prepared to sacrifice a lot of interior quality and features, the FFH is the obvious choice (again assuming cost is about the same between a Prius V a more base FFH).

    Hope I didn't offend anyone. The Prius is a great choice for a lot of people - especially if they weren't considering the Prius V. I've appreciated all the information on this forum, and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Heck, I suppose I could still change my mind, because I haven't purchased the car yet.
     
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  2. Mr. Nelsby

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    Oh well, shut down the prius chat site... it's a "landslide!"

    really, a few of these you admit that you don't have enough info to make an informed decision... 1 opinion a "landslide does not make."
     
  3. mirak

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    (1) Based on the factors I considered, it was a landslide.
    (2) Of course it's just my opinion.
    (3) This is only a comparison between the Prius V and the FFH because they are similarly priced (and only with the U.S. Government's help, at that). The Prius is generally in a smaller, less expensive class, so the comparison may not mean much to many people.

    If I'm factually wrong on something, or if you think I'm overlooking something, please let me know. Like I said, I haven't bought the car yet.
     
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    Thanks for the comparison. Wow, is the FFH about the same price (or more, before Federal credit) as the Prius V? That sort of puts it out of my price range.

    And while I would love to help out Ford by buying one of their cars, I really need the hatchback style. The last time I bought a sedan (a Honda), I really missed the flexibility of the hatchback.
     
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    As someone who's wife owns a 2010 FFH, and I own a 2009 Prius Touring, I find the review pretty close.

    One of us needed to have a car with a hatch, so for us, having one of each makes sense in our case.

    I really like both cars quite a bit. They both offer value for the money, save on gas, and make a statement that you are concerned about doing your part to help out.

    The FFH and Prius are really going after two different markets (IMHO).
     
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    If you had a 2010 Prius then it'd be even better...
     
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    First I'll say that the Ford Fusion is a wonderful car, no one has to apologize for purchasing one. I'd also say that people may weigh the importance of aspects of a car with differing importance.

    Personally I would say that the two most important aspects of a car are 1. Reliability and 2. Gas mileage. I imagine most PC'ers likewise have a similar opinion.

    We could take a Ford Pinto and I'm certain I could find 100 categories in a Ford Pinto that I liked better than a Prius (better cup holders, for instance). Would I weigh better cup holders on the same level as reliability, better gas mileage, or not blowing up in a towering fireball? For me, no.
     
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    Not in this case. I prefer the 2009 Touring model I own to any of the 2010 base models. The combination of price break, package 6, and improved handling (yes, the 2009 Touring does handle better than the 2010 15") makes it not a clear cut comparison at all.
     
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    The FF is a nice car. I hope it does well. I like the looks of the Prius more. I like the FF from the front door back, but the front end is just too long, and looks bad in my opinion. Can you put the back seats down in the FF? I was told no, and this is a deal breaker for me as I need to be able to carry shovels, ladders, etc from time to time.

    Safety? Reliability? Intangibles? I'd go with the Prius after having owned an American car for the last eight years!!! MPG? Should be a major concern for anyone buying a hybrid, otherwise, go with a non-hybrid vehicle. I hope the FF turns out to be a reliable vehicle and sells great, but it isn't for me at this point.

    For me, its a Prius and the Prius easily wins over the FF and Civic Hybrid. But to each his/her own.
     
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    One of the points I tried to make is that the FFH and Prius are geared to different markets. You are correct about not being able to put the back seat down on the FFH, which was one of the reasons I went for the Prius.

    Safety? I think the FFH is just as safe (perhaps more safe) than the Prius. Reliability? Ford has very good reliability over the past few years, so the FFH should be excellent. (I bet the headlights do not die as often as the HID, for example).

    MPG is a big consideration. The FFH is better than the Camry hybrid, which is really the proper car to compare against.

    Having said all that, I love my 2009 Touring!
     
  11. Bruno_S

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    I went over the same decision process and chose the Prius. Drove both back to back since the Ford and Toyota dealerships are in front of each other. Actually they brought me a 2010 Prius to the Ford dealership since they are owned by the same company. It is a tough choice and can easily go either way according to the buyer preferences. The unique Prius styling, higher MPG and better fit-and-finish made me choose the Prius. There is no clear winner, both are good cars priced about the same.
     
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    mirak,

    Thanks for telling it the way you see it. A lot of folks won't be happy,
    but so what? Shortsightedness and lack of true personal vehicle
    diversity is part of reason for the current economic condition.

    Despite the recent preponderance of new Gen III threads/posts, most
    of the members here have Gen IIs and they bought their Gen II when
    there really was no other viable choice. Now there are three; Insight
    II, Fusion, and Prius. I am sure that in the future many folks will opt
    for the other two choices. Good on 'em. It's their life and they should
    choose their car based on their particular needs, circumstances,
    pocketbook.

    By 2012 there could be 6 or 8 new hybrids on the market, and with
    luck some really capable EVs as well. A lot of folks will join the
    hybrid/EV wave with cars other than the Prius. Good on them too.

    The big picture isn't about worrying, fretting, or wailing about the
    make of the car, but rather getting more and more Americans in cars
    that get 40+ MPGs to start. And then moving to higher petroleum
    based FE and finally somewhere off in the foggy future to renewable
    energy "fueled" EVs.

    But we had to start somewhere. The Prius was a very good start. The
    Prius-Fusion-Insight trio is even better. We can be proud of the
    groundbreaking that Toyota and Honda have done. We should likewise
    cheer every new 40+ MPG hybrid and EV that comes on the market.

    We're all better off for each and every one sold: us, our children, our
    grand children... and on, and on.
     
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    I think the jury is still out on that. If the FFH can exceed it's EPA ratings then it wins over the TCH. The EPA for the Camry is so under stated. I averaged 37+ mpg and had no problems in normal driving of getting 39 (without the wife driving). Only a moron could drive the Camry with the intent of conserving fuel and not get at least 37.

    Also, comparing loaded to loaded the TCH (currently with large discounts) is probably cheaper or at least close in cost to the FFH even after considering the $1700 (which will soon be cut in half again). I had the X-Plan available to me and still didn't consider the difference significant. (The Prius is a different issue since discounts don't exceed $500)

    Your bias shows here. Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder. Personally the FFH has too much chrome for me and the front bumper with the large plastic slots where a fog light should be is butt ugly. on the white car (my preference) it was unacceptable.

    Here's where being close is not good enough. I sat in the back of the FFH and my head hit the roof. It's the same reason I ruled out the CTS. It either fits or it doesn't. While the car looks bigger than the Prius it doesn not have the passenger room of the Prius. Width is an important measure but since neither of them would be comfortable with 3 across seating then what good is a couple extra inches between two passengers?


    Although from a conventional view the FFH trunk is adequate (so is the TCH)


    Better? or just different. But you can have that one. I hope the green growing vine does not get out of hand:) Just a gimick. Personally on the TCH a small blue ring glow was all I needed (and didn't really need that).


    Can't see why you critize the Prius features. It's not like you can't get features. They are available on different packages. Costly perhaps and not packaged as you would have them but feature for feature comparisons, the Prius has some nice features available. Critize the cost and packaging but not the feature. Personally I wouldn't have a sunroof so the old "beauty is in the eye" thing still applies. If the FFH does not have LED's fog lights, SKS; well those are useable items I would appreciate.

    Correct, not even close.


    My daughter bought (upon my recommendation) a FF 4cyl model. I like it a lot. I have not gotten to drive the Prius V (yet). I was satisfied with the drive of the 2009 and can only inagine the difference. Her FF has a lot of road noise. I'll have to see how it compares to the Prius but I can't imagine this being a landslide, possibly a tie but even with that I'll have to drive the Prius V before I will believe the FFH is comparable.


    Possibly but I don't think there is significantly enough difference to matter. Neither would fare well against my Expedition at 60 mph.


    My concern with the ford won't be with the hybrid system. My problem with Ford has been and still is with small things. Electrical, radio, A/C, rear ends. Irritating things that once off warranty can be expensive to fix.

    Now you're fooling yourself. What makes an American company American? WHO are the largest stockholders? Trace the money. This is a wash at best. Considering the Prius will probably outsell the FFH by a considerable margin then I would say it has more impact in helping the American economy.


    Uhhh, most of the people on PC (and I'm new here) place MPG and the hatch usefulness as probably the top two reasons for buying. I guess what you're saying then is if MPG's and Cargo capacity are not important.... the FFH is for you


    It's the availability of the V that changed me from the FFH to the Prius. Had I considered a "stripped" Prius then I looked at the FFH as a viable option. But I want a loaded car (w/o sunroof) and in that comparison the FFE falls short for me.

    If the Prius was not the "hands down" winner for me then I would be ordering the FFH instead of the Prius V
     
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    To me, the Fusion looks very traditional. Not particularly "fun" or "cool." Perhaps since I'm a few years from 50 I'm drawn to something more youthful and unique. For me, that "intangible" makes the Prius the clear winner when coupled with the Prius' impressive MPG. I'm waiting for my Prius II, which, I believe, is an excellent value as well.
     
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    Once you are looking at the Prius IVs and Vs, the prices start getting very comparable.

    For anyone concerned about the front end styling of the Fusion enough for it to be a deal-breaker, there is the otherwise similar, but more conservatively styled Mercury Milan Hybrid.



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    I'm not sure I want to live without the cargo capacity of a hatchback, but it is really tempting. These cars a really nice and 40 MPG is "enough" for me.
    The Milan is more expensive than the Fusion becase the "base" Milan is much more heavily equipped with standard equipment than the base Fusion Hybrid.
    One advantage of the Milan is that it is often forgotten about so it will have reduced demand and likely better discounting than the more in-the-news Fusion Hybrid.
     
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    Brunette
    Blond
    Auburn
    Red
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    Choices. Some not for everyone.

    I did look at the Brunette -FFH. Even took her out a few times. Just wasn't my type.

    I chose Red (My Prius V). Picked her up 2 weeks ago. We eloped. Liked her style especially the cute eyes. Think she's very pretty. She's fun to take out and eats less. We're still on our honeymoon. :car:

    I like Red's hatch too.
    Just didn't know how to fit that one into the above metaphor without going X-rated.
     
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    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Thanks for the review! Well written.

    I will say though I think the Prius has the edge in features. There's Touch Tracer, LKA, IPA, DRCC and PCS which aren't offered in this price range (and esp. in Canada, you'd have to pay more than 2x the price of a loaded Prius to get those features all in the same car).

    I'd also say that with regards to safety, it's a tie. They're both well-made and very safe cars. If they both protect the occupants just as well, I'd take the lighter car for manoeuvrability. Better to avoid than collide right?


    Again, thanks for taking the time to do the write-up. I'm sure many can benefit from this!
     
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    Well said. Thanx
     
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    I'd admit I like the Milan front end better although it reminds me of my Grandfathers Buick.
     
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    This would be interesting.

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