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07 Total Loss- What Now?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by lowbone, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. lowbone

    lowbone Junior Member

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    My 07 Package 4 was in an accident about a week ago.At first the car looked repairable however when they started the teardown they discovered a crushed wiring harness on the left side ( $3000 part) and a bent crossmember ( $1000 part ) along with some other damages plus labor. Add these goodies to what was an $8700 repair before the teardown started and I was informed that my car is a total loss. In a way I'm glad it was totaled because any car with this much damage would probably never be right after a repair. This is a new experience for me having never been in an accident before. I am supposed to get a call from the adjuster on Monday or Tuesday. My question is how do I find out what a fair payment would be? Is it what Kelley blue book says I should get for trade in or is it what a dealer would charge for a similar car or is there some other way of determining a fair price. I would appreciate any help from those of you who know something about this.
     
  2. jdenenberg

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    seilerts Battery Curmudgeon

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    Find the closest match in a certified pre-owned car at dealer in terms of mileage and options. Use Autotrader.com to search. Then when the adjuster calls, you can tell them, "I won't accept your offer for $xxxx, because these cars have been selling for $yyyy since gas prices went up. Here are some examples."

    If you own the car free and clear, and it is allowed in your state, you could consider having them cash you out, but leave you with the car and a salvage stamped title, as Jeff suggests. They will subtract out of the settlement their expected net from an auction sale of your car. But it is possible to come out several thousand dollars ahead if the car is indeed rebuildable, although it might take several weeks.
     
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  4. SageBrush

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    "Retail Fair Market Value."
    If OP pushes up the total value enough, the insurance company may decide to repair the car rather than total it. That would be a useful number to know.
     
  5. lowbone

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    aside from body damage, the transmission was torn off of the axle and the general feeling is that the more they dig the more damage they will find. I found a few used 2007 with 50000 (that's what my car had) for between $21,000 and 22,000 In my mind the figure I get from insurance should be in that neighborhood. Is that realistic?
     
  6. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    I agree that it would be best to walk away from that car given the accident damage that you have listed.

    I think that the $ range you suggested for reimbursement is reasonable, if you see local cars listed at that price.
     
  7. pghsebring

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    This is how they are going to determine what they give you:

    They use a program that is available to insurance companies/adjusters, i forget what the exact name is. This company/program goes through all the autotrader.com, cars.com, all the other websites, and keeps track of all the asking prices of the different vehicles, their mileages, etc. They will find the cheapest ones from the last X months (3, 6, who knows) around your year/mileage and offer you that, plus tax. They will never have looked at that car, don't care one bit if it had problems, damage, if it was r-titled, anything. That is what they will tell you your car is worth. They will tell you they don't care one bit how much kbb or nada says, or the fact that you can't find a car within 500 miles right now for that price. They will tell you that's not their problem. They will also pretend to call a few dealerships and say "if you had this car, a XX prius, with XX miles on it, what would you 'take' for it" and pretend that they are getting an honest answer. They may budge a few hundred dollars, but it will never be enough to get your exact car back. Oh, and if there was any damage anywhere else on your car, they'll subtract that off too, make you 'pay' full price to repair a scratch, dent, etc.

    They realize you will be stuck with a rental car for months if you fight it, with the chance you may not win, and then be out even more money.

    I went through this 2 years ago when our car was totaled. KBB said it was worth 10-11k, we got 8k, and there is nothing we could do about it.

    If my prius was totaled tomorrow, i would print out every single one within 100 or 200 miles from those websites that are currently available, that are at least as nice as the one i had, and make them give me at least that much money, plus tax, title, registration and dealer doc fees. I would not accept prices of some R titled car on autotrader.com from before the gas price spike. Make them call the dealers with comparable cars in stock, get them to commit to a firm price where you could take the check there in the next 5 minutes, and accept only that.

    Good luck, you'll need it.

    PS. Taking a quick look on autotrader.com and cars.com, no way will they offer you over 17k.
     
  8. paprius4030

    paprius4030 My first Prius

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    Years ago my 95 Dodge van was totaled. The insurance company paid me way above what kelly blue book said. Like what others have said the insurance companies use what they call fair market value to see what your car is worth. So it's good to know what other cars like yours are selling for in your area. Hopefully it will work out well for you. PS hope no one got hurt and that your ok
     
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    I called the adjuster and expected a battle but his first offer was $21000 for an 07 package 4 with 50000 miles. I almost fell over. I think the offer is fair an I will accept it.
     
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    That is very fair. Man you came out smelling!!! Good luck with your new choice. Hal
     
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    I'm sure the main reason why they totalled the vehicle was because the salvage value was high.

    MB860 ?
     
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    $21000 is super, sorry if I missed it but what's the insurance company?
     
  13. lowbone

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    The insurance company is travelers. I found a dealer in my area that has a version III coming into port on July 1st. The car had pretty much what I wanted and was the same color as my wreck ( silver ) I put a deposit on it. I should have it in two or three weeks. Everyone is out of Prius cars because of the earthquake. I felt lucky to find one available.
     
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    21k? Wow! Wasn't it like $27k brand new? I can't believe it holds that much value after 4 years and 50k miles, I would have expected more like $10-15k.
     
  15. LIPriusFreak

    LIPriusFreak Can I haz JDM?

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    1) its a Toyota
    2) in this economy, the prius is probably the best value holding car
    3) when in doubt, refer to #1

    :D
     
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