1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

12 v battery and listening to the radio

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Felt, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. Felt

    Felt Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2009
    1,624
    603
    0
    Location:
    Mountain West
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    First, I assume the radio is powered by the 12v battery? and, the Nav screen?

    From time to time I wait in the car and listen to the radio while my wife is in the market..... perhaps for 20 minutes. I have done so by pressing "Park" thus keeping the vehicle powered up, and on other occassions I have listen by turning off the car, then powering up the radio by pressing "Start" but not pressing the brake pedal. In either case I have stopped the fan, and turned off all the lights. But, the Nav screen is still illumunated, and of course, the radio.

    Which is the better method? I know I do not want to discharge the 12v battery .... is there any danger in 20-30 minutes of radio use?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    12,470
    6,862
    2
    Location:
    Greenwood MS USA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    Be in Ready, in Park. That way the HV battery is charging the 12v battery constantly, and the ICE can step in to recharge the HV battery.
     
    2 people like this.
  3. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    19,655
    8,062
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Or ... dump your stocker auxilary batter for the similarly sized yellow top optima. Then you'll have a battery designed with real live cranking amps ... and doing a simple task like running the radio won't kill it, if you listen too long. It's all a mater of preference. If one preferes to not want to waste a charg/discharg cycle on the traction pack (plus the gas to do it) then the optima is another alternative.
     
    1 person likes this.
  4. Felt

    Felt Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2009
    1,624
    603
    0
    Location:
    Mountain West
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    I like your suggestion; I looked at their web-site, and did not find a model recommended for the 2010 Prius. Any additional suggestions?
     
  5. firepa63

    firepa63 Former Prius Owner

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2005
    1,761
    208
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Park and in READY is a better way than spending unnecessary money for a new battery that is not needed now. When the original battery needs replacement, that would be the time for replacement with the Optima.
     
    1 person likes this.
  6. Rokeby

    Rokeby Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    3,033
    708
    75
    Location:
    Ballamer, Merlin
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    I believe that my experience with the Gen II is transferrable to the
    Gen III.

    Without additional gauging, the safest way to listen to the radio while
    the car is at rest is to put the car in Ready, as noted by JimboPalmer.

    In lieu of purchasing a better battery as suggested by hill, you
    might consider getting a ScanGauge.

    With the SG, you can monitor the status of the 12V battery, even when
    the car is Off. (By far, the least battery drain is when the car is On
    (one press of the Power button without depressing the brake pedal) By
    setting the standard VLT gauge on the SG you can ocasionaly check
    the 12V battery with the car sitting and the radio on.

    When the voltage drops to a preselected value, say 12.3V, either shut
    the car off or go to Ready to recharge the 12V battery from the HV
    battery, or with the ICE running if the SOC gets below 3 bars. In my
    Gen II in the On condition, voltage drops ~0.1V every 20 min. (Note:
    in the On condition nothing else electrical is energized, even the many
    ECUs, etc. that are powered up in the Accessory mode.)

    Purchase of a ScanGauge for this purpose alone would not be justified.
    However, it has many other uses as well as given in many threads
    that can be found using the search function.

    IMHO, all in all, a SG is the best first "mod." :rockon:

    Hope this helps.
     
    1 person likes this.
  7. David Beale

    David Beale Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    5,963
    1,981
    0
    Location:
    Edmonton Alberta
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Do note that if the lights were on and you turn them off but don't get out of the drivers side of the car they may not actually turn off. To be certain they are off open and close the drivers side door. Several people posting on this forum have drained the 12V battery because of the headlamps not turning off.

    The Optima battery conversion is at: 12 Volt (12v) Toyota Prius Auxilary Battery for 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 with installation kit. Note that there are two types, one for the G1, and one for the GII (which I understand is also applicable to the GIII). If you want to get it you will also need the post adapters, also sold by the same people.
     
    2 people like this.
  8. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    19,655
    8,062
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Thanks db for posting the link. One tends to forget it's not common knowledge after posting & re-posting the info for a half decade now (not that I mind in the least)
    :p

    .
     
  9. ALS

    ALS Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    590
    294
    0
    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    There is a timer or low battery shut off when you have the car in auxiliary power mode.
    When I was de-tarring my paint I had the radio on and it automatically shut itself off after a period time. It would not turn back on unless I put the car in READY mode. So there must be a safety interlock to prevent the owner from killing the battery by draining the 12V in accessory mode.

    I don't recommend doing this to find out.
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. rrolff

    rrolff Prius Surgeon

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2009
    1,610
    246
    0
    Location:
    So Cal
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Outside of getting a larger capacity 12V battery, might I suggest switching to a lighter load (passenger seat). Both will help your situation - the other option is a nice sports bar that I am sure is within walking distance...